Sallis Contra Johnson Redux

Opposing lies and hypocrisy.  And other news. In all cases, emphasis added.

First, see this.

1. What is Ethnonationalism?

Ethnonationalism is the idea that every distinct ethnic group should enjoy political sovereignty and an ethnically homogeneous homeland or homelands. The opposing view is multiculturalism, which holds that multiple ethnic groups should share the same homelands and governments.

Unfortunately, ethnic, racial, and cultural diversity inevitably lead to friction, which can either wear away distinct identities or spark hatred, conflict, and violence. Therefore, the best way to ensure peace and good will among peoples and preserve human racial, cultural, and religious diversity is to give each distinct group a homeland where it can live and develop according to its own distinct nature and destiny.

Very good. So when is Johnson going to denounce John Morgan for violating the ethnic homogeneity of Hungary? When will Johnson oppose Full Moon Ancestry’s Bang East Europe?

2. What is White Nationalism?

White Nationalism is the advocacy of national self-determination for all white peoples. White Nationalism is often misrepresented as nationalism for generic white people, as opposed to national self-determination for all white ethnic groups.

What a gaslightling lie. If White nationalism is the same as ethnonationalism then why is it necessary to have a separate term for it? Just call it ethnonationalism. The whole point of White nationalism is, as the name suggests, the idea of making race as nation: Our Race Is Our Nation (ORION). You see, White nationalism is - surprise! - nationalism for White people (as a group, as a race). German nationalism is…you guessed it, nationalism for Germans. Ethnic group X nationalism is…nationalism for group X. Why give another name to a grouping of separate ethnic nationalisms?  Is it because race is an overarching identity?  If so, then we are talking about racial nationalism.

The whole “generic” label is stupid and irrelevant.  No one says that all Whites are “generic” or “fungible” or whatever other labels that fundamentally dishonest ethnonationalists use. The vaunted ethnic nations that Johnson prioritizes also can have narrower identities. Will a Bavarian decry the idea of a “generic German” and instead focus on Bavarian nationalism? Where to draw the line? How about drawing the line at the level of race and civilization (High Culture), while also acknowledging that lower levels also exist?  Pan-Europeanism and racial nationalism do not eliminate national or regional identities – Yockey acknowledged this decades ago.  

Johnson’s objective of redefining White nationalism is both a gaslighting misrepresentation and completely unnecessary from a logical standpoint.

But there is no such thing as a generic white person. 

There is no generic Swede or German or any other ethnic person either. What’s your point?

All white people also have specific ethnic identities. 

So what?  All ethnic Whites also have specific individual identities.

Not all white people are Swedish, but all Swedes are white people. 

And they have “beautiful males” as well!

In Europe, where old national and regional identities remain robust, generic whiteness, if adopted as one’s primary identity and political philosophy, would actually promote the breakdown of distinct identities and the homogenization of Europe. 

There is no evidence this will happen other than Johnson’s assertion that it will. Again, if Johnson is so worried about the “homogenization of Europe” then he’d deal with the ethnoimperialism of his sycophantic followers.  When will the long suffering people of Hungary be free of the Morganian invader?

However, a sense of European identity can still supervene upon more compact national and regional identities.

And so what’s the problem?

I have previously speculated that Johnson’s sudden shift from pan-Europeanism to hardcore ethnonationalism was at least in part a response against Spencer’s “Empire” ideas; apparently others also believe that Johnson is formulating policy based on his animus toward Spencer:

Johnson comes across as an impressive intellectual and communicator, but most of his positions ultimately boil down to the peculiar nature of his homosexuality, as well as his deep antipathy towards Richard Spencer, which has sometimes been compared to a bitter gay crush/feud.

This is not mere “talking about people instead of ideas,” not ad hominem; if particular important ideas are being promoted, or opposed, due to petty personal reasons, then it is important to evaluate if the “if” is true or not.  Now, it is certainly correct to state that ideas need to be judged on their own merits and not based on the motivations of those who promote or oppose them. But, nevertheless, if we are going to judge the effectiveness and character of “leadership” and understand why such “leadership” invests so much effort in promoting destructive memes, we need to evaluate all of the possibilities.

Second, see this.

13. What is the NANR position on Traditionalism?

This is a particularly important question given that the very name Counter-Currents is drawn from René Guénon by way of Savitri Devi. 

Yogi Bear and the Men Who Can’t Tell Time in the Age of Aluminum!

…Many participants in our intellectual project are Traditionalists, or take inspiration from Traditionalism, myself among them…

I for one am unalterably opposed to “Traditionalism” while essentially supporting Futurism. With respect to the anti-science and anti-technics attitudes of the hobbit hole crowd, see this critique of Heidegger.

That critique includes this:

The debate about the costs of technology and the technological mindset to the human soul reminds me of the tale of the machines in Gene Wolfe’s The Book of the New Sun. To paraphrase and summarize – humanity reached the stars by giving away the wild part of themselves – essentially becoming emotionless technocrats – and then the thinking machines (AI), who hated their human creators, decided to ruin those human creators by re-introducing to humanity paradigms that would rekindle humanity’s interest in those “wild things.” Thus, humanity became distracted away from pure science and technics and the galactic empire collapsed.  The lesson here is that – besides not trusting AI – humanity should not give up its “wild” side, its human soul, for the sake of technology; instead, humans need to achieve their objectives – “reach the stars” – while remaining fundamentally human. Thus, in relation of Heidegger’s whining, we need not become entrapped into a technological spiritual mindset – pure instrumentality – in order to “be scientific.”  On the other hand, we cannot evade the price that must be paid for science and technology – while science is a tool, it is an expensive tool, and what has to invest in a degree of rationality and empiricism to achieve science and technics. One must strike a balance – the mind must be scientific while the soul remains human.  But we cannot hide in the hobbit hole, while others reach the stars. The White Man cannot give up his Faustian birthright because of fearful, backwards-looking traditionalists.

Relevant to this, a careful reading of Wolfe suggests that this “galactic empire” was initially established by Asians (although others apparently subsequently followed). What happened then in the Wolfeian universe? Did Whites collapse because of multiculturalism, leaving Asians as the ones to first reach the stars?  Or, perhaps, did Der Movement succeed in setting up their Tolkien Hobbit Hole ethnostate, so Whites were busy “bringing out their dead” (while measuring the skulls of the cadavers with calipers), while Orientals were rocketing off into outer space? The mind boggles!

15. What is “West-Coast White Nationalism”?

West-Coast White Nationalism is my term for the blending of white racial consciousness with liberal or Left-wing positions on such issues as capitalism, environmentalism, zoning, abortion, drug legalization, homosexuality, and religious pluralism. 

Yes, particularly homosexuality.

West-Coast White Nationalism is not, of course, confined to the West Coast…

There’s always the Florida-Georgia Instaurationist axis.

…The North American New Right is not identical with West-Coast White Nationalism, although there are overlaps. (For instance, I consider myself to be more or less part of the Racially-Conscious Left.)…

Of course he is. Traditionalism!

There is no way out but through Johnson.

Other news:

Laugh at this.

Greenwood said that when her family moved to Centreville in the 1960s, things were different. “If all of those white people were still here, this wouldn’t happen,” she said.

Excuse me, Greenwood, “all of those white people” moved out precisely because the likes of you moved in. And, no, you cannot say that their moving was due to “blind racism” – no, it was due to Negro behavior. Experto Crede.

Whites just can’t win. If Whites move away, then that’s White Flight and bad. If Whites move back, then that’s gentrification and bad. If Whites stay in their original neighborhoods, then that’s segregation (backed up by “redlining”) and bad. No matter what Whites do, it is bad. I suppose that Whites just shouldn’t exist. But, hey, if Whites die, then they’ll be accused of “hoarding cemetery space.” If Whites are cremated, that’ll cause global warming. Can they just vanish?

This is from the Jew Unz site that scum like Johnson and Durocher write for:

That Jews built the America in which the Greens of the world are born, the nation which is an Empire and runs the world from which every single American benefits by the favorable terms of credit the Empire offers, and that this credit indebts the Greens to those they most despise is a truth no bitter peasant can entertain.

Green needs the cash to spread his seed and reap, but he spits in the face of those who give it to him. He’d still be living on a crag in Scandinavia, or in a Seminole hut in the Everglades if it wasn’t for the intelligence and honesty of the Jews who raised his nation to its heights

Intelligence and honesty of Jews. HBD!  Hey, all you goyim out there, all you "bitter peasants," wake up and worship high, high-IQ Jews like Unz!  They built America, not you. 

See this.  OK. Maybe we need someone to follow around the failed Quota Queen "movement" "leadership" making this sound.