El Paso and Rome in Der News

Related whether you realize it or not.

Recently, I told what I see as the truth about the El Paso shooting. Taylor has released a reasonably good video that is consistent with half of what I write – the part about the System and its hypocrisy, as well as that the System’s all-too-predictable reaction will only amplify the situation and make it worse, increasing, not decreasing, the probability of further violence.  The part where I also blame the “movement” because of its ineptness and history of constant failure was not discussed, but I didn’t expect that it would be.

Reading more online reaction to the upcoming Ancient Rome genetic study – that according to these commentators may not be released before next year at earliest (but who knows?) – I am getting a good idea about the approach that Der Movement is going to take here.  Allegedly, these people claim that the Iron Age Italian population, Etruscans, Samnites, etc. were shifted more in the NW direction compared to, say, the Imperial period, so that the former were more “West Med” and the latter drifting more in the direction of “East Med.”  One could suppose one scenario in which some Italic tribes moved into the peninsula from the north, being more similar to today’s Iberians and Southern French, and then subsequent population movement’s from the circum-Mediterranean region shifted the “centroid” more in the S. Italian direction.

I previously commented on this:

…the essential Der Movement narrative is not supported.  The only point of agreement (that no one has ever substantially argued against) is that the city of Rome (and some other areas) became more cosmopolitan during the Imperial Era. That there were migrants and slaves in the city is well known.  However, these data paint a crude genetic picture of a Republican Rome whose genetic centroid was Central Italian, a more Southern Italian Imperial and Late Antiquity Rome, and then shifting back to Central Italian in more modern times.

Without seeing the actual paper, it is difficult to comment in details; dealing with breathless accounts of “leaked PCAs,” it is difficult to any conclusions.  However, most probably, Der Movement’s strategy is going to be to concentrate on the fact that there was changes in the population composition over periods of centuries and millennia, an obvious process amplified by the cosmopolitan status of Rome, as well as known Greek influences from Rome southwards – while ignoring the fundamental “movement” thesis of a Nordic Rome in which the population was completely replaced by Levantines and other non-Europeans.  The original thesis will be shelved and West Med to East Med shifts (to the extend they occurred) put in its place.

Another point. Although PCA can be, with the correct computational approaches, be used to estimate ancestral proportions, etc., in and of itself, just looking at positions of samples, one cannot make determinations of ancestral origins per se.   That two samples are placed similarly in a PCA does not necessarily imply similar ancestral origins (although wide difference in position does suggest probably significant differences in at least some components of ancestry). As a purely hypothetical example, a person who is half Russian and half-Palestinian may cluster similar to Italians along clines of gene frequencies; this does not mean that Italians are half Russian and half Palestinian. One must distinguish centroids from individuals, and the presence of inhomogeneous elements from others – whether sample centroids shift due to the presence of individual outlier samples or because of actual admixture.  The direct relevance of all of this to genetic kinship and EGI is zero.

Finally, there is a connection between the first and last sections of this post.  If Der Movement was more concerned about the serious issues facing Whites today, instead of obsessing over the racial provenance of Plato and Julius Caesar, we wouldn’t have to waste time with issues of ancient genetics and instead focus on more relevant and pressing issues.  Again, that’s why Der Movement is partially responsible for El Paso.