Odds and Ends, 5/17/22

In der news.

Can you believe this outrageous despicable hypocrite?

Lord ShangMay 14, 2022 at 2:06 am

Thank you. This makes me lose some respect for Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene who appeared at a conference with Fuentes (maybe his group sponsored it). I recall the WSJ chastised her for bad judgment...

Gee...anyone else attend the conference, you mendacious turd? Anyone ever notice that there is a close correlation between being a Nordicist and being completely bereft of character?

So, the next time a "movement" turd says that:

a) Fuentes is poison and is a destructive force, or

b) They've "lost respect" for some mainstream conservative or minor "movement" figure who associated with Fuentes

Remember that picture

When "America First" implodes in a tragicomedy, just like the Alt Right did, remember that picture.

Greg Johnson, Feb. 2022:

Nick Fuentes is extremely effective at arguing that America is a white nation, that white people are under attack, and that white people should fight back...he openly talks about white genocide, the Great Replacement, and Jewish power. We hope AFPACIII will be a successful event that pushes the Overton window toward white identity politics.

Also Feb.2022:

…Fuentes still comes off looking impressive in this episode. Thus it is a net gain for white identity politics.

Greg Johnson, May 2022:

The Fuentes cult’s last resort, the childish jeer: You are jealous of our leader!

I am sure the people at Jonestown said the same thing about Jim Jones’s critics.

In my opinion, these people are dangerous as “leaders” – poor judgment, indecisive, no accountability.

And think of how badly Spencer screwed up for it to reach the point that his activist career imploded.  On second thought, if he hadn’t managed to alienate virtually every faction of the Far Right, capped off by supporting Biden, he likely would have survived all of his catastrophes.  But he lost the support of the “good old boys network” and so that was that.

My hypothesis of why Johnson has so many “haters” is as follows.  Johnson is a self-righteous hypocrite who bans critics, pathologizes criticism, and refuses to debate anyone above the level of midwits like Anglin, Gariepy, and Jones. That incites contempt and disgust, which is amplified by the transformation of Counter-Currents into a vehicle for page views and fundraising, coupled to the mendacity of the site’s current writers and commentators. That contempt and disgust is described as “hate,” and Johnson stupidly tries to conflate substantive criticism about ideology, facts, and tactics to the obsessive infatuation exhibited by celebrity stalkers (I note that one Scottish critic of Johnson ascribed the latter’s own obsessions about Spencer to a “bitter gay crush,” so one wonders to who the celebrity stalker designation most accurately applies).  In summary, I see Johnson’s “haters” as completely justified, and not “cackling madmen.”

I was talking to some Balkanoids from EU nations, and they were complaining how their nations were being deindustrialized and even stripped of agricultural production by EU policies. Then the Germans will complain how “having to support incompetent southerners and easterners.”  This is like how Southern Italy was stripped bare after Italian unification. You take away a people’s ability to support themselves and then you complain about how useless and lazy they are.

A Gab correspondent who is a friend of this blog pointed me to the Buffalo shooter's "manifesto" and pro-Asian comments therein. 

We can observe that the Buffalo shooter is a HBD Nordicist; excerpts, emphasis added:

When I refer to East Asians, I refer to those of Japanese, Korean, and Eastern Chinese descent. I think that East Asians are quite admirable. The average East Asian tends to perform better in academics than the average White, which of course leads to more skilled and higher-paying jobs. This is all due to superior traditional values and genetics.

…physical characteristics that are much more frequent in Jews than any other race, such as hooked noses, beady eyes, gravely voices, shorter bodies and arms, and flat feet. But of course this phenotype can also be found in other Mediterranean people, such as Southern Italians, Turks, Greeks, and other Levantines such as the Druze, Lebanese, and Samaritans.

And lots more there in the “manifesto” about genes and IQ, etc. HBD-Nordicism is a curse on pro-White activism.

(Justified) Black feelings of inferiority toward Whites in part provokes Black violence. If HBD (falsely) tells Whites that they are inferior to East Asians, will that affect weak-minded White youths and cause violence? Was the Buffalo shooting ultimately due to deep-seated feelings of inferiority due to "race realist" Yellow Supremacism? Are HBDers causing at risk White youth to become violent? Real White advocates must speak out against the HBDers poisoning the minds of our youth.

Serious question - will HBD and HBD Nordicism lead to violent attacks against Italian-Americans? HBD activist logic: Well, you see, Southern Italians/Sicilians are low IQ, part-Black non-Whites, physically akin to "Mediterranean" Jews and Turks, therefore...hostility to Italians? We have just seen that HBD leads to violence. HBD previously has led to people supporting Chinese government narratives about covid. White ethnics are in danger from HBD.

Do Italian-Americans need to organize for physical protection against violent HBDers?

Happy Saint Adolf’s Day, April 20, 2021

And other news. In all cases, emphasis added.

Happy Saint Adolf’s Day, April 20, 2021.

This is American Renaissance:

John Smith  

Anybody who isn't an Anglo-Saxon of Northern European descent with light skin is a person of color.

George Clooney is fully Northern European but he sure as hell isn't very "White"? Is he? I've seen Sicillians and Jews who are whiter then Clooney.

The French and other Southern European nations were all ruled by the Roman Empire which was mixed race. Including big parts of Southern Germany.

White people are Norweigans, Danes, Swedes, Dutch, Northern Germans, English, Irish and Scottish who have LIGHT skin. Anybody not listed is "a person of color". Even those Eastern Europeans who have a lot of Central Asian admixture.

Not only are Southern and Eastern Europeans all non-White admixed cringing mongrels, but even darker Northern Europeans like George Clooney are non-White as well. Dat Right!

I recently wrote:

The Alt Right seems to have been enriched with younger Type I ethnic fetishists, people who indeed seem involved in activism to make up for personal deficiencies and who have little else other than their racial identities. Thus, among the majority of these "activists" who are Herrenvolk, there's a tendency toward an exaggerated Nordicism, and a navel-gazing focus on their own ethnicity. We can then understand why hostility toward non-Nordic Europeans, fueled by the narcissism of small differences, is increasing…

That seems to fit “John Smith” very well. One can imagine him as some fellow playing video games in his mother’s basement, looking into a mirror from time to time to admire his light complexion, and obsessing over his Northwest European Celto-Germanic heritage, without which he would have nothing except his video game scores and the semen stains on the front of his sweat pants from jacking off to anime.

Some may say that comments like that of “John Smith” are so extreme and absurd (e.g., George Clooney [and other “Paleo-Atlantid” Northern Europeans] is “non-White”) that they are likely from anti-White, leftist trolls trying to be divisive.  But that’s the point, isn’t it – Nordicism becomes so ridiculous that one cannot with certainty distinguish a genuine Nordicist from leftist trolling. The ends result is the same.

I call Jeelvy a “Turko-Albanian” as a joke – mocking ridicule – to puncture his pretensions, but, alas, to the Herrenvolk, that designation is all too real:

FortunatusApril 19, 2021 at 6:38 am

Being a closed club, is not the same as having a national soul. The mafia is a closed club too. I thought you were talking about a meaningful nationalism based on blood on soil and a national soul and a national culture.

We are here discussing the problems of White people. And from my observation (I am a German living in Germany, which after 1945 was turned by the victors into a dumping ground for the riffraff of the world) the people of the Balkans often are somewhat Mischlinge between Turcs and Europeans proper. The occupation of the region by Turcs for centuries clearly had an influence on the gene pool, and at the end to Antiquity there was a fertility crisis of epic proportion, so I assume some Mischlinge from the East settled in that vacuum. So it would be very wrong to think the ancestors of your people fought in a phalanx with Alexander the Great.

So for me it is an open question what role the people of the Balkans can play in a discussion of a nationalism of White people. I don’t want to be divisive. So perhaps one can avoid this discussion.

But when someone from the Balkans comes along and denies Europeans in a very al fresco discussion of history their national identity (you seem completely ignore the fact that regional identity can coexist with a national identity), this will provoke some reaction from someone who knows a thing or two about your people.

I can understand where Jeelvy’s obnoxious posturing offends people, like this German, but the problem is that other Balkanoids are not responsible for Jeelvy’s stupid antics. Thus, because of his (justified) anger toward Jeelvy, this (alleged, self-described) German reveals his own hidden animus toward Balkan peoples. We see the typical Herrenvolk assumption that everyone else is admixed, but they themselves are pure, an assumption I have repeatedly challenged here.

In any event, we see the typical outcome of when people engage in ethnic gamesmanship – it antagonizes other people, who make their own offensive comments, and we get never-ending cycles of ethnic animus. Jeelvy is a master at starting these cycles of offense. Assuming he’s not doing it intentionally, then the man’s an idiot.

Nick JeelvyApril 19, 2021 at 5:16 am

Bulgaria got its name from the Bulgars and its language from Slavs, but they are the same people more or less who’ve lived there for centuries – i. e. Thracians.

Incorrect.  See this. See this figure. Now, that figure should NOT be taken literally, as it suffers from the same basic problems as supervised admixture analyses, both in the literature and from the testing companies – the choice of parental populations used will determine how the findings are structured. Interpreting the same populations with a different set of reference samples would yield a different set of ancestral components and percentages. That said, the data (such as they are), combined with other studies, and taking into account history, strongly suggest a significant contribution of Slavic ancestry to the Bulgarian genepool. The following seems reasonable:

Early gene flows between southeastern and eastern Europe make it difficult to obtain a correct estimate, although young enough identical by descent segments confirmed such connection and that the East and West Slavs share more identical by descent segments with South Slavs than with Greeks, inter-Slavic populations (a group of Romanians, Gagauz), but less with Balts, while the South Slavs share similar number with East and West Slavs, but fewer with Greeks.

I think most likely that the Bulgarians are mostly mix of indigenous Balkan (Thracian and other groups) and Slavic ancestry, with some fractional ancestry from Bulgars and other groups. But that is only my opinion, my interpretation, and I could be wrong. Unlike Der Retards of Der Movement, I don’t make definitive claims on subjects like this, claiming my opinion is a “fact” that “everyone knows.” I do think though that there is a general consensus among those that study Bulgarian ancestry that there is a Slavic component, but that component is less than what is found in, e.g., Poles.

More on the stupid Jeelvy article:

FortunatusApril 16, 2021 at 4:06 pm

It is never classy to allege that your audience is full of monsters created by propaganda and other evil means after their basic national soul has been destroyed, whereas oneself is the real thing.

I am pretty sure one could say very bad things about modern Macedonians as well. I did a quick picture search and what I saw was not a very pretty sight. If they have preserved their national soul, why do they wear the same garbage clothes like everybody in the West? And I am sure that the Macedonia youth does not sing the song of their ancestors while they annoy as expats others in the West (why did they emigrate, if they have preserved their blood-and-soil-nationalism?).

But I am not here to denigrate you, since I think you are a half decent writer, but this stupid bragging was a bit much.

PhoenixApril 17, 2021 at 3:45 pm

Yea, the Macedonian arrogance thing was laughable.

Also, this guy seems to be unaware that America was a mixture of different European ethnicities at it’s founding.

That last comment is completely consistent with my previous statements about how Europeans know very little about America and American history. Then they complain how the “Yanks” and the “Hamburgers” know nothing about Europe.  Pot, kettle.

Badmouthing Balkanoids

An obnoxious guest.

Some specimen who uses the surname “Deasy” writes on a certain Alt Right blog about visiting Bulgaria. Among the smug air of superiority he affects, one finds the following paragraph:

The faces of most of the people took getting used to. This was an important lesson in ethnonationalism: Southeastern Europe would not mix well with Sweden, England or France. It isn’t clear to me that expelling the Gypsies and other nonwhite populations from Bulgaria would drastically reduce poverty the way it would in the US or Western Europe. Bulgarians are a different kind of people, with a different kind of multicultural problem. Their birth rate is low, not unlike Germany or Korea. The Gypsy population meanwhile is booming.

Let’s consider this.

The faces of most of the people took getting used to.

Gee, that must have been terrible for you.  Tell you what, next time, decline to visit nations outside of your comfort zone and spare yourself this obvious trauma.

This was an important lesson in ethnonationalism:

If you are an ethnonationalist, and not an ethnic Bulgarian, probably you should have declined the invitation to visit there; it’s not “your people” after all.

Southeastern Europe would not mix well with Sweden, England or France.

Good thing one can walk around, say, Stockholm, London, or Paris and not see a single non-native face.  By the way, did any of your Bulgarian buddies profess to believe that their countrymen should live in Sweden, England or France?  And what do they think of British retirees buying up prime real estate in Bulgaria?

It isn’t clear to me that expelling the Gypsies and other nonwhite populations from Bulgaria would drastically reduce poverty the way it would in the US or Western Europe.

Translation: Bulgarians are dumb, inferior Swarthoids, themselves responsible for their own poverty.  Forty plus years of Stalinist communism had nothing to do with ruining the country and its people.  On the other hand, the poverty of, say, North Korea or rural China is 100% the result of communism.  After all, they have high, high, high test scores, and test scores from North Korea and China are as pure and untainted from government manipulation as freshly laid snow.

Bulgarians are a different kind of people, with a different kind of multicultural problem.

They’re terrible, terrible, I tell you, and they look all weird and all.

Their birth rate is low, not unlike Germany or Korea. The Gypsy population meanwhile is booming.

No problem.  Just get rid of the gypsies and repopulate the country with some nice high-IQ Jews and Chinamen.

The bottom-line: all people - including all those worthless Balkanoids! - have interests in their own genetic continuity, despite what condescending ethnonationalists like Deasy, or anyone else, thinks about them.