Odds and Ends, 10/23/22

In der news.

I notice that since the end of WWII, every time the High Trusters get racially threatened by Coloreds, the High Trusters become more Nordicist and start attacking White ethnics, particularly Southern Europeans, who not only did not cause the Colored problems, but in most cases also suffered from it. In America, the “civil rights movement,” integration, and the post-1965 mass Colored immigration triggered Nordicism, leading to Sir Humphrey, McCulloch, Pearce, and Duke, etc. Then, after the election of Obama and continued mass immigration and out-of-control illegal immigration, we now have the revival of more Nordicism in Der Movement, including HBD-Nordicism. The end of apartheid in South Africa led to the radical Nordicist gibbering of Arthur Kemp. The pattern is clear.  Afraid of dealing with Coloreds, the High Trusters look to White ethnics as easy outlets for their racial fears and frustrations.

Consider - a long period of outrages against native Britons by Colored colonists caused the Britons to turn against the EU and complain about White EU immigration, after which we got Brexit, cut the White immigration while increasing the Colored immigration that was causing the real problems to begin with.

Racial Proximity Theory anyone?

And the argument against that theory by invoking hostility against Jews doesn't cut it. First of all, sustained anti-Semitism in Germanic countries was mostly Germany and Austria. Second, such anti-Jewish hostility was more intense among South German types than among more Nordic North Germans. Third, Germans being more hostile to Jews than to Negroes actually supports, not refutes, Racial Proximity Theory.

Jim Crow in America doesn't refute it either. In the South, the divide was Anglo-Negro; in the North, there was plenty of hostility against the White ethnics who were present there, and, there were always the John Lindsay types who preferred Blacks and Hispanics to White ethnics. It is difficult to think of any strong refutation of Racial Proximity Theory.

Speaking (no pun intended) of Racial Proximity Theory, meet Tris Speaker, Texas Southron. First, his attitude toward White ethnics:

Despite the team’s success on the field, tensions were often high in the clubhouse. Speaker and catcher Carrigan never got along and had several brawls. Speaker was often not on speaking terms with Duffy Lewis, who, like Carrigan, was an Irish Catholic. (Religious differences had created cliques on the club, with Speaker siding with other Protestants including Joe Wood and Larry Gardner). The atmosphere grew more complicated with the arrival of Babe Ruth in 1915. Ruth crossed Wood and Speaker never fully forgave him. In his book Baseball As I Have Known It, Fred Lieb wrote that Speaker once told Lieb he was a member of the Ku Klux Klan. Although the Klan kept its membership rolls secret, Speaker’s alleged membership would not be surprising given that the Klan experienced a nationwide revival beginning in 1915, gaining much popularity with its anti-Catholic rhetoric. In addition, the Klan’s national leader from 1922 to 1939, Imperial Wizard Hiram W. Evans, lived near Speaker in Hubbard...newcomer Joe DiMaggio’s graceful play in the Yankees outfield inevitably caused comparisons to Speaker. The proud Texan bristled at the suggestion that DiMaggio was a worthy successor. When asked about the Yankee Clipper in 1939, Speaker responded, “HIM? I could name 15 better outfielders!

And now, his relationship with the Negro:

In 1947, at the request of general manager Bill Veeck, Tris returned to uniform as a special coach, to help convert Larry Doby, who had played second base in the Negro Leagues, into a center fielder.

It gets worse with Tris Speaker; here he defends a Negro against White "racism" -

Tris Speaker pointed to the racial tension of the era, saying, “the poor guy came up under the worst possible conditions… [he] had nothing to do with the condition that made him the target of the boo birds."

Big Bad KKKer Speaker, attacking the micks and wops but treating every Negro as if their name was "Ben Dover."

A Gab correspondent alerts me to this:

The Ostrogoths came as conquerors and treated the Italians as such. They practiced the typical custom of appropriating one third of the lands or productive revenues for themselves; they barred the Romans from military service; and the kingship (the most powerful position in the Kingdom) was exclusive to the Ostrogoths, who remained consciously separated from the Romans and adhered to their own law. They had no intention of assimilating or of being equals. According to their own law, Ostrogoths were forbidden from attending Roman schools, and intermarriage between Romans and Goths was prohibited.

The Ostrogoths were also Arians (a heretical religious sect which denied the divinity of Jesus Christ and opposed Catholicism). Despite the vaunted "tolerance" of Theodoric emphasized by current historians, the reality is that towards the end of his reign he began to persecute Catholics.

Even though the civil administration remained in Italian hands, and even though Italy's Roman customs and institutions were largely undisturbed, in the end the Italians were still a subjugated people, subject to the Ostrogothic military class and to the king.

Well then, those Ostrogoths were certainly high trust altruistic non-ethnocentric individualists, eh?  Seriously though, the MacDonaldite thesis about "Western individualism" is continuously refuted.

Against the Ethnics

The historical truth.

I make no claims that the ideas presented here are original with me.  Most of this has come from others, much of it form people like E. Michael Jones, as well as comments by some Gab correspondents and others. Some of it are my ideas and/or my extension of the ideas of others.

“White Flight” is a euphemism for ethnic cleansing. Among the various reasons for racial integration was the use of Blacks (and Brown Hispanics) as biological weapons to use against certain Whites – with the ones wielding these weapons of ethnoracial warfare being the WASP-Jewish alliance.  In the South, racial integration was another step in the long civil war between the Yankee WASPs of the North and the Southron WASPs of the South, a war that started before 1861 and continued past 1865. Of more relevance to this post, in the Northeast, racial integration was a weapon used by the WASP-Jewish alliance against the growing demographic-political power of White ethnic Catholics (Irish, Italians, Polish). White ethnics were driven out by crime, racial harassment, the destruction of the schools, filth, noise, plummeting property values, hostile political elites, etc. Therefore, racial integration led to an ethnic cleaning that broke up White ethnic neighborhoods and hence disrupted areas of political power, also disrupted family connections, negatively affected the education of White ethnic children, drained family finances, and physically terrorized the people – all according to plan.  John Lindsay can be seen as the High Priest of this vicious biological warfare.

And then we have the other attack pincer against the White ethnics – affirmative action. Affirmative action for Blacks and Browns can be viewed at least in part as a weapon to attack the upward mobility of White ethnics. The people harmed by affirmative action in higher education admission were not, and are not, the country club types with their legacy slots at the Ivy League, not the ones whose families have had inter-generational memberships to Skull and Bones. No, the ones actually harmed are, for example, first generation college students from working class White ethnic backgrounds, shut out of the best schools because of affirmative action for Blacks and Browns, combined with legacy slots for WASPs, and monopolizing of slots by grasping ethnocentric Jews and Asians.  With respect to affirmative action in employment, that predominantly harms those Whites who historically have lived in and around cities with large Black and Brown populations and are in employment competition with those populations, and such Whites are disproportionately White ethnics. Therefore, at precisely the time that White ethnics were displaying upward mobility to higher education, to the professions, and to join the White American middle class, affirmative action was introduced that to a significant extent retarded that progress.

No doubt the usual suspects will call me “paranoid” and “insane” for broaching this topic.  Further, following the advice that “the best defense is a good offense” WASP elites on the Right flip the script and accuse White ethnics of “dispossessing the founding stock” (no, actually the Jews did that) or invent sweaty sexual fantasies of White ethnic men cuckolding founding stock men or other such nonsense – anything to avoid dealing with the actual historical facts on the ground, and the actual balancing of the books for the sociopolitical warfare waged against White ethnics for many decades.

And of course the same scenario plays out in Der Movement itself.  White ethnics displayed too much upward mobility in Far Right circles, the Anglo-Germanics felt threatened, and so we observe a revival of Nordicism (much of it in the guise of HBD-Nordicism) as well as the ethnic affirmative action plan for Anglo-Germanics as well as WN 3.0 using non-Whites as a wedge against White ethnics, recapitulating what was done with racial integration in America’s urban Northeast. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Odds and Ends, 10/16/22

In der news.

Hood is at it again. One of the best pieces of advice I ever heard - and, surprisingly enough, it was from a woman - was that if you are going to bring up a problem then you should offer a solution. Hood and Amren do not do this. That site - and especially all of Hood's "verified hate" posts - is an endless litany of racial and cultural woe, and their only "solutions" are to attend their conference to hear more woe and to listen to Taylor state that Asians are superior to Whites by every standard.

Laugh at this:

Istvan

As if we should be surprised by this. Two brown eyed parents could conceivably have a blue-eyed child, rare though that might be.

Conceivably? Rare? These Amren commentators are incredibly stupid. It's a common occurrence among Europeans as many dark-eyed Europeans are heterozygotes.

Another pathologically self-obsessed navel-gazing essay by Jeelvy.

Italians cause many of their own problems.

In general, I agree with this, and when MacDonald writes about Jews, it is more or less sound (of course, my opinion here can be ascribed to bias; nevertheless, that is my opinion). The problem here is that much of what MacDonald writes about disguised ethnocentrism and deception/self-deception with respect to Jews can apply to certain other groups that pretend that they are disinterested altruists while ruthlessly pursuing group goals (the John Lindsay syndrome).

I have noted several times that the human mind was not designed to seek truth but rather to attain evolutionary goals.

Indeed - like HBD and HBD-Nordicism.

Consider Quota Queens who give a litany of woe without ever providing concrete examples of what to do about it, or, more generally, all those Quota Queens living off of their supporters. We will do a thought experiment. Odin rides down from Asgard on a lightning bolt, with Viking horns blaring, and tells the Quota Queens that if they push this button right here, the race problem will be solved, all will be well, and they don’t need to be activists any more.  However, that means they need to go back to be ordinary people, with no special privileges or positions, they need to support themselves and make their own way in life, independent of supporters and donations.  Do they push that button?

The same holds for the Mainstream Right.  Ronnie Raygun rides a MX missile down from The Great Supply Side Economy in the sky, and tells the conservative politician/activist that the Left can be defeated by pushing that button over there, but then that means no more phony political careers, no more think tanks and foundations, no more lobbyist jobs, none of it.  Do they push the button?

I think they would not push the button and would rationalize that decision by stating that they don’t want the easy way out and that victory needs to be achieved through struggle – but that’s all deception and self-deception. The reality is that they are addicted to grifting and don’t want to work like ordinary people. They want to be parasites instead – and all of that applies to both cases, Odin and Raygun.

The litany of woe approach delegitimizes the Quota Queens who practice it and are too stupid to realize that people will ask - if things are so bad for Whites, then why aren't they flocking to you and your "movement?"  And there are two basic possible answers:

• 1. Whites are useless and hopeless, and/or
• 2. Der Movement is useless and hopeless

In either case, there is no reason to support Der Movement and send them money. If #1 is true then nothing will help and if #2 is true then Der Movement is the problem and needs to be replaced.

White men inclined to MGTOW may try and do the right thing, and marry (intra-racially) and have children for the race and for personal genetic continuity.  They try and raise the children right and at least the children don’t end up with Color, but they then announce that they don’t want any children of their own, and the White man ends up with “grandchildren” that are dogs and cats. You’ve been played, sucker!

Gaslighting Greg Johnson was misrepresenting the meaning of White nationalism once again here in the YouTube discussion, and once again "debates" midwits who are unable to mount any sort of effective challenge. What a despicable coward. Defining White nationalism in terms of ethnonationalism is not only dishonest (and Johnson and dishonesty go together like peanut butter and jelly or like a homosexual's ravaged anal sphincter and KY Jelly) but it is also logically superfluous. A constellation of ethnic nationalisms can be subsumed under a doctrine of ethnic nationalism itself or as universal nationalism if you want to stress the "everyone deserves a homeland" angle. To give a specifically racial designation to nationalism means - to any sane and honest individual - that the "nation" in question encompasses the entire race as a whole, not merely all of that race's constituent ethnicities individually and separately in turn.

The Snapshot Syndrome

A behavioral defect.

A behavioral problem many people have is what I call The Snapshot Syndrome – a tendency to focus on, and make judgments and decisions on, fixed “snapshots” of a given situation, instead of considering trends, projections of the future, reasons for which the situation exists, not to mention other more important issues than that current situation.

For example, there is a subset of voters (*) who ignore deep ideological issues and broad long term sociopolitical trends and objectives, and instead base their support of a candidate based on the current, immediate, “snapshot” of some metric of personal (and/or national) (perceived) well-being, in some cases, metrics over which the given candidate(s) have limited to no control over. If the economy is booming on Election Day, the incumbent is favored; if the stock market just crashed and a recession has begun, the challenger is this empowered. Of course, not only is it possible that these events took place for reasons independent of government policy, but regardless, it is possible that they may become reversed after the election, even if government policy remains unchanged. Further, there are other more important issues; what benefit a “booming economy” if the current administration is promoting race replacement immigration? Or if outsourcing, high skilled immigration, and massive income inequality mean that others benefit from all of the “booming?’’ And even if this is not the case, there may be other issues and concerns, putting aside the issue of the very likely temporary nature of the “snapshot,” as I have already indicated. Another possibility is that a candidate can “trick” voters by pretending to support views that they have heretofore rejected, in order to influence the voters’ perception of the current “snapshot” of candidate stands on issues, without considering the broad context. Arizona Republican voters who were fooled by McCain’s squint-eyed steely assertion that “we’ll build that wall” had their “snapshot” of an immigration restrictionist McCain vanish from view once the election was over, and the reality of Open Borders Invade the World Invite the World McCain once again (and predictably) became painfully obvious. That stupidity could have been avoided by considering the whole context and using the past to predict the future, instead of depending on a fixed, situation-at-the-current time view of the political situation. Voting by “snapshot” is a highly irresponsible and superficial approach to the democratic political process.

Another example are fools who say “the native population of country A does not face any threats of demographic replacement since as of today the alien population percentage of A is only X” completely disregarding that X has been increasing, all projected trends suggest that X will continue to increase and increase markedly, and A has been increasingly the focus of legal and illegal immigration.  Any sensible view would be that A is indeed threatened, and one cannot assume that the “snapshot” on any given day will be fixed for all time. Indeed, looking at any nation suffering from race replacement, at one time in the past, that was not happening, and a “snapshot” at that past time would have resulted in a completely false picture of future possibilities. And, indeed, those morons who said that country A was demographically safe until the end of time saw their imbecilic assertions quickly disproven.

Yet another example of The Snapshot Syndrome is to consider the status of an ethny at one given time and project that endlessly in the future (and sometimes the past as well). Thus, if an ethny has been having a great “run” for the past several centuries, then that is asserted to be evidence of their permanent and innate superiority, ignoring that the ethny is now in decline, was at a lower status in the past, and that other groups were in higher status in the past. Indeed, one consequence of projecting the current “snapshot” backwards in time is the rewriting of history, so that the accomplishments of other groups are falsely ascribed to that group that has been more recently been “on top.”  I’m sure we can think of a certain example of this historically popular among Der Movement. Of course, in some cases, like the Negro, the current “snapshot” is actually an accurate predictor of the future and is accurately manifested in the past – when a “snapshot” is consistently supported over historical time and is explained by plausible mechanisms, then it may well be accurate. Not all “snapshots” are misleading. But many of them are, and the tendency to judge by “snapshot” alone is a behavioral defect we should all strive to overcome.

Footnote

*Another issue in the mainstream political sphere, albeit unrelated to the main topic of this post (but is related to the broader issue of behavioral defects), is people having campaign posters on their property and stickers on their cars. There’s a bit of need of a childish need of political self-expression and also the power of conformity – the idea being people are more likely to vote for a candidate of they see many other supporting the same candidate (and vice versa). Regardless, it is stupid.

Call to Action, 9/30/22

And Odds and Ends that are in der news.

Call to Action:

My reaction to this is - Fuck You, "Gregory Hood." I for one am sick of Amren and its "litany of woe" posts without that site ever giving its readers a viable plan of action to do anything about any of it. No, instead we get this here from them. That's it. Let's all get together and discuss the Amren idea that by every standard, Asians are superior to Whites. That'll save us no doubt, right? Or how about this ridiculous nonsense from Counter-Currents (see more about that below) - is that the solution?

Der Movement itself is the biggest threat to Whites, not all of the retarded Coloreds that Hood quotes. It is Der Movement that is standing in the way of the development of an effective White resistance. It is Der Movement that clogs up the political and metapolitical niche space on the Far Right, preventing the growth of healthy alternatives, much like weeds choke off healthy productive plant growth in a garden. If therefore stands to reason that Der Movement must be opposed and defeated if we ever have a chance of developing the healthy alternatives that can stand up to the System.

This post is therefore yet another Call to Action by the Sallis Groupuscule for sane activists, those who are disenchanted by Der Movement and its motley crew of freaks, defectives, incompetents, fetishists, and grifters, to make a stand against Der Movement.  Over and over again I say this, post after post, year after year, and there is no real response. I have to assume that either everyone is satisfied with Der Movement and I'm yelling to the wind or else some people are disenchanted by simply don't care enough to do anything about it.

And there's plenty you can do, apart from the obvious tactic of withholding support from Der Movement.  You can join with the Sallis Groupuscule, including following this blog and my Gab account and, more importantly, contributing material to the Sallis Groupuscle blog, targeting Der Movement and proposing alternatives.  I can be reached at my Gab account.  Or you can start your own blogs, your own sites, your own entities. You can organize IRL locally. You can, even at the lowest level of resistance, go to  "movement" blogs, websites, livestreams, social media accounts, etc. and challenge their self-interested and moronic paradigms. Or do something else - maybe you have other ideas, but if you are disgruntled, there is more to do than merely read this post, agree with it, and then forget about it all as if none of this is a serious problem.

Odds and Ends:

There are many Whites, including those fairly far on the right, who are afraid of radical change, as they do not want their comfortable lives disrupted.  However, radical change is going to occur whether they like it or not, and indeed, such change has been occurring, always in the direction of the anti-White Left. So, the question simply is – our change or their change? If we do nothing, they win by default. Unlike what some deluded conservatives have believed, we cannot successfully stop history.  We can only attempt to channel it in the proper direction. Change is coming.

And here in this Counter-Currents post we have the ideological, metaphysical underpinning of Der Movement and its Bring Out Your Dead ethnostate.  We observe a promotion of, and celebration of, irrationality and ignorance, the elevation of superstition above science, and, as is always the case with these mendacious retarded traditionalists, a complete misunderstanding of science. Science is a method, not a set of "laws" or a compilation of facts; indeed, if it is discovered, via empirical analysis, that "Friday the 13th" indeed results in a greater frequency of misfortune (so defined), and if a testable and falsifiable hypothesis can be proposed, then science - or better, the scientific method - will support the (tentative) validity of the finding. And, by the way, predictions of future events based on the past are based on (again, tentative) understanding of underlying mechanisms, based on hypotheses that have so far survived falsification. In this sense, we can make predictions of what would happen if, say, a traditionalist Counter-Currents writer jumps off the roof of a tall building in the belief that Odin will save him. In that fervently-hoped-for scenario, predictions can be made based on various natural "laws" derived from the scientific method, and the outcome of that scenario would, I am sure, match the predictions from those "laws" more than it would match traditionalist retardation. 

I won't even bother pointing out, to a degree more than this sentence, the ludicrous hypocrisy of these types using the technics of modern society, which are all based on the work of science, to live their daily lives, including the use of harnessed electricity, computers, and the Internet to spread their drivel - as opposed to, say, using runes, Norse spells, and black cats to spread the message.  

As I have been saying, a victory by Der Movement would literally bring Whites down to the level of the Dark Ages, leading to the destruction of Whites by both avoidable natural disasters as well as attack by technological savvy opponents. Of course, the real danger is that Der Movement destroys Whites by delegitimizing sane activism and by filling the Far Right niche space with unspeakable stupidity, therefore alienating normal, productive people and preventing the emergence of alternatives that would actually have a reasonable chance at saving Whites.

While I am critical of Nutzis who are enthusiastically hyper-pessimistic about Meloni in Italy, that does not mean that I am optimistic about that. Four issues:

1. Wops always disappoint.

2. Der Right always disappoints.

3. I am not fond of female leaders in any endeavor, certainly not as a national leader.

4. The characteristics that allow someone to achieve power are not the same that allow them to be an effective leader; it is very rare for an individual to exhibit both sets of characteristics. Given the oft-cited "volatility" of Italian politics, Meloni needs to demonstrate fairly quickly that she is such an individual.

Odds and Ends, 9/21/22

In der news.

See this.  That's fine as far as it goes and helps to explain much Der Movement behavior.  But what about leftist conspiracy theories and the flawed thinking therein? Such as:

• Race does not exist
• Institutional racism (in the absence of race, by the way) exists, and is what holds back Coloreds (instead of their well-documented deficiencies)
• Biological men can get pregnant
• Some guy running around the capitol building dressed like a buffalo was a dire threat to democracy
• Police are killing thousands of unarmed Blacks every year
• Months of protests that caused over a billion dollars of damage, and which included arson, assault and battery, murder and attempted murder, were "mostly peaceful"
• Trying to storm the White House, forcing the President into a bunker, and then burning down the church across the street was not insurrection and neither was setting up an autonomous zone in Seattle
• White Privilege is a real thing
• Man-made global warming must be real and if you question it you're crazy
• Lying about population genetics to obfuscate White identity is good
• The popularly elected Viktor Orban is an "authoritarian leader"

Should I go on?

An enlightening interview.  A leftist political beginning, influenced by Jews (and alienated from “stuffy country club Republicans” – a bit of innate anti-WASPism?).  The time in Jamaica, etc. He talks about collectivist Jewish behavior of group controls enforcing social conformity - the exact same types of behavior he ascribes to "individualist" egalitarian NW European societies.

Laugh at this:  [Note: Shortly after being posted, the Jeelvy Counter-Currents article about Lady Diana's phenotype was taken down. It is still down at the time (9/21/22) that this EGI Notes post is out. Was the article's deranged Nordicism too much for even Counter-Currents? If not for that reason then why was it pulled?  Will it be going back up later, perhaps in edited form?  Who knows. But you can enjoy the relevant excerpt below; keep in mind there was much else equally, if not even more, ludicrous, in the deleted article. The excerpt:

If I met Lady Di — blue eyed, her blonde hair worn boyishly short or in the ‘80s blowout with a hint of Margaret Thatcher, with a slender figure and rarely disfiguring her strongly Nordic figures with makeup — on the street, I’d assume she was Danish. Lady Diana Spencer had a wide smile full of perfect pearly whites and delicate arms and legs, and always the hint of an eating disorder about her — never excess flab, but she had it where it counted. Contrast her with Diana, Princess of Wales, at home in Balmoral and Buckingham as well as her London flat, the pinnacle of Norman womanhood, her ancestors more noble and more ancient than the upstart Windsors themselves…the delicate-limbed, Nordic-featured, blonde and blue-eyed Diana Spencer…

Reverse Sallis' Law in action again; in every possible circumstance, Nordics must be praised. No wonder High Trusters believe that they are Eloi, swans, and angels when they have fetishists like Jeelvy and their worshipful groveling. Der Movement’s typical obsessions duly noted.

In the broader American society, White ethnics experienced a one-two punch.  First, they were insufficiently White, discriminated against, and occupied lower strata of society.  Later, as they underwent assimilation and exhibited upward mobility, they were then begrudgingly classified as White and then, as “White bigots,” were subjected to ethnic cleansing via racial integration of the cities and had the professional advancement retarded by affirmative action, which disproportionately impacted urban Whites. 

In Der Movement, White ethnics experienced a three punch combination.  First, the left jab of being considered non-White.  Then the right cross of being begrudgingly classified as White but placed in a lowly subaltern stepandfetchit position below their “masters,” and, finally, the left hook of once again being considered non-White and placed in status below Jews/Coloreds in WN 3.0.

I can concisely and without (too much) ad hominem summarize my differences with MacDonald, re: individualism.  It comes down to how one defines individualism.  I define individualism as most people do – prioritizing the autonomy of the individual over the demands of the group; thus, the focus in on supporting the opinions, desires, and identity of individuals over that of their community.  Individualism promotes the independence of the individual, allowing for their self-actualization regardless of what the group requires of the individual.  According to this, any group that is conformist, suppresses individual autonomy, and strictly enforces group social norms via social pricing including ostracism (or worse!) cannot, by definition, be “individualist.”  Such a pattern would be considered collectivist and completely inimical to individualism. It seems to me – and maybe you would consider this to be ad hominem – MacDonald is defining “individualism” as encompassing all behaviors typically exhibited by Northwest Europeans and then works backwards from there; in contrast, I believe that you first need to establish a reasonable definition of individualism and then you can investigate what groups actually exhibit such individualist behavior.

I also see MacDonald's focus on families and marriage with respect to individualism as being irrelevant in the current day. I look at extant European-derived peoples and everywhere I see nuclear families and marriages based on individual personal preferences. In America, all White ethnic groups are primarily intermarrying with other Whites ethnic groups, and have been doing so for many decades. The idea that Southern and Eastern Europeans are, like NECs, marrying their cousins in arraigned partnerships to further clan networks is, frankly, bizarre. It is a non-issue, a diversion.

Funny how the "threats to democracy" all come from the Right. How about these alternative (and real) threats to democracy: Race replacement immigration, in part utilized to subvert democracy by "electing a new people" rather than convincing existing native voters; social pricing and other methods (including violence) to suppress dissident opinions; and the unequal application of the law for political purposes - all courtesy of the Left?  And by the way, as regards "the will of the majority" being ignored, how about decades of ignoring majority opposition to mass immigration and affirmative action? How about state referenda being overturned by leftist judges?

First, see this nonsense.

A Chilean who is 50 percent Italian, 25 percent Basque, and 25 percent Greek would be considered white as well — though his skin may be darker than a Chilean who is actually less European, such as one who is 10 percent Araucano, 10 percent Incan, 50 percent Spanish, and 30 percent Belgian.

Because of the large presence of Mediterranean whites, the genotype and phenotype of whiteness in Chile do not correlate as neatly as in the Anglosphere. The result of this is that Chileans have a “big tent” view of whiteness; those who are considered white in Chile are certainly majority white, but plenty would not be considered white in the United States or Australia...

...The Basque genetic makeup is easily distinguished, and Basque skin tone is whiter and their IQ is higher than the average Spaniard. Many people find Basque people very attractive.

A person's work needs to be judged objectively, independent of personal variables, such as an untimely death. Thus, I can seriously question Rojas. The same person (who was Roberts/Rojas) who wrote that Amren article having an Anglo-Nordicist criterion for "Whiteness" wrote a series of articles for Counter-Currents, ending with this.

In that last article he claims that this person is "White" with "no qualifiers." That woman’s mixed race ancestry is described here.  That ancestry is clearly written all over her phenotype.

I understand that people can change their mind about things, but here we have a radical change about a fundamental - an existential - core concept of racial identity, in the context of the general ideology staying the same. Something here is not right. In one forum, he suggests that Old World Europeans from Southern Europe can be darker than outright mestizo types and not perfectly White in a Nordic/Anglosphere sense, and then in another forum he shows an outright Mestiza, obviously non-White, who is likely at least 25% (and maybe 50%?) Amerindian (and maybe part-Black as well), and says that that's White with no qualifiers and he expects American Whites will one day agree with that absolutely absurd classification.

Either this guy was so confused about race that his opinions were essentially worthless or else all of this doesn't (to me at least) pass the smell test of sincerity. We'll likely never find out now what the real deal with that guy was.

The American “civil rights movement” and its aftermath was a perfect example of Suvorov’s Law.  When White America held firm with Jim Crow, the Negro and his handlers could make little headway against White survival instincts.  But once Whites showed weakness and made concessions, opposing the resistance of the White Southrons and the White ethnics, and suddenly relieving the repression of segregation, etc. than it all fell apart, and fell apart quickly, resulting in a decades-long racial and cultural revolution in America that is only accelerating in its pace.  Thus, Coloreds, Jews, and their High Truster junior partners pushed against White America and found very little pushing back. Once that emptiness was revealed, the collapse was inevitable.

E. Michael Jones makes some good points about the ethnic cleansing of White ethnic urban neighborhoods, but then goes off the rails, making it about religion and narrow ethnicity, rather than its reality that was race and ethnicity. Blacks ethnically cleansed the White ethnic enclaves because they were Black and behaved as Blacks, not because they were mostly Protestant.  And their Hispanic junior partners in that enterprise were mostly Catholic, so whither religion?  Did Blacks make distinctions between White Catholics and Protestants (or Orthodox for that matter)?  To Blacks, even Jews are “White.”  Of course, the cleansing was mostly focused on White ethnic Catholic areas so in practical terms it was mostly Black/Hispanic vs. White Catholic conflict, but the White Catholics were targeted because they were White, not because they were Catholic, and, yes, while most of those White Catholics were Irish and Italian, they were, again, targeted by the Blacks/Hispanics for being White – not because they were Irish of Italian.  If any WASPs or Germans or whatever – even Jews – happened to get caught in the crossfire, they got it too. Now, the fact that the Blacks and Hispanics were weaponized in this fashion by the High Truster-Jew alliance was ethnic and religious (although with the Jews it can be a racial conflict as well, but let’s pass over that for a moment).  But it was as much (or more”) ethnic than religious and the race issue loomed large over the whole situation. Again putting aside the racial issue of the Jews, broadly speaking, one can say that the ethnic cleansing was a racial conflict being used as a proxy to fight an intra-White and White-Jewish ethnic conflict (with religion as an identity – not actual practice – being a part of ethnic definitions).  But after a while, the race proxy took a life of its own, and the race weapon began to slip out of control; Coloreds became a threat on their own, even independent of the guidance they were initially given.  To deny the fundamental racial basis of the conflict is mendacious and cowardly. The ethnic cleansing could take place only because of the race-based behavior and hatreds of Blacks and Hispanics.

A Lesson from Ivanhoe

How will we rise?  That is, if we rise.

I’ve seen the 1952 movie Ivanhoe, based on the novel of the same name.

Before I get to the lesson alluded to in the title of this post, I’ll critique the one big problem of the story – the depiction of the Jews as an unjustly persecuted people, a noble breed, more learned and sophisticated than the crude Normans and Saxons. Further, having British-American beauty Elizabeth Taylor playing a Jewess is absurd; the reality is actually this. And no, being a convert to Judaism (as Taylor stupidly was) does not count; conversion does not change your genes nor your phenotype.

That out of the way, we will now consider what I consider the real lesson of the story. The subtext of the plot is the long-simmering tension between ruling Normans and ruled Saxons in England after the Norman Conquest. The end of the movie is described by Wikipedia thus:

King Richard and his knights arrive to reclaim his throne. Prince John grudgingly kneels before his brother. Richard then calls on his kneeling people to rise, not as Normans or Saxons, but as Englishmen.

Therefore, one unified people, one nation, is forged from these previously feuding elements.  Hopefully, the analogy to the White racial situation is obvious.  

We need a leader, or set of leaders, who will call our people to rise, not as Nords or Meds or Slavs or any atomized ethnicity, but as Europeans.

We need to forge the European Nation, the Imperium of the West, out of these previously feuding elements.

That is the lesson we should learn from Ivanhoe.

Unfortunately, we are instead stuck with “leaders” who preach to us that Asians are superior to Whites in all respects.

Is it any wonder why the European race is on a collision cause with disaster and eventual extinction?

Will the lesson ever be heeded?  If not now, then when?  If not by us, then who?

Odds and Ends, 9/10/22

In der news.

So, Taylor spent time in West Africa, MacDonald spent time teaching in Jamaica, Johnson taught at Black Morehouse College, and Ruston fathered an illegitimate child with a Negress. These specimens are living advertisements for my Racial Proximity Theory; they have a natural attraction and affection for Color, in these cases the worst of the lot, the Negro. That contrasts to their disdain for White ethnics. I won't even get into those people on the Right with Asian wives and of course the rampant Yellow Supremacism and the whole WN 3.0 Kumar-Matthews-Malkin, etc. stupidity.

Is the racialism of the Quota Queens a form of noblesse oblige? The paternalistic High Trusters will uplift the Coloreds - The White Man's Burden. In order to protect the Coloreds, White ethnic bigots must be opposed; thus, the Quota Queens are Far Right versions of John Lindsay.

Just like authentic White conservatives get turned off by Turk Oz and his "Democrats are the real racists" spiel so will authentic White nationalists get turned off by Taylor telling them "that frog-faced, covid-spewing Chinaman over there is your superior by every objective standard."

If you want to discourage and dispirit White activists, telling them that a race of "human" photocopiers is their objectively absolute superior is a good way to do it. Whites are not going to fight under the banner of Yellow Supremacy.

Der Right is hostile to the French Revolution and of course I myself dislike that revolution's ideology of leftist egalitarianism. However, the parasitical French monarchy and nobility got what was coming to them, and the revolution opened up the path to Napoleon, so it wasn't all bad. The UK should be a republic. The Queen is dead, depose the King. Let Charlie earn a living digging ditches or something.

Those good White Southrons voted for her, so...you made your bed, lie in it.

The Hobbit Hole Nerds can simply not watch that nonsense. Let it collapse financially. But, no. They'll whine and complain and then jack off to hobbit holes.

I'm getting sick and tired of constantly getting Torba's "Christian nationalism" spam. Just like the System constantly pushing Negroes in my face makes me more anti-Black, so do the Jaysus freaks pushing their religion 24/7 makes me more anti-Christian. And what is it? Just like "National Bolshevism" is for people too cowardly just to say they are National Socialists, "Christian nationalism" is for people too cowardly to say they are White nationalists.

And why is Torba hiding out in the PA woods when he can be living in, and spreading the good word of "Christian nationalism" in, say, Detroit or Chicago or NYC or any other place where there are so many nice Christian dark-hued Children of God? These guys talk Christian but live White.

Clarifying Misunderstandings

Some points.

I have nothing inherently against any European ethny; I praise or criticize people based on whether it is justified.  I embrace any and all pan-European White people. Contra my critics, I do not have innate animus toward any group. So, for example, pan-European Nordics, Germanics, etc. are people I consider as my fellow Europeans; I call them brother. Of course, that is premised on the idea that they return the sentiment, which they should if they are sincerely pan-European.  Of course, not too many such people are authentically pan-European and so actually return the sentiment; that is precisely the problem. The problem is Nordicism, not Nordics, or any other people. Pan-Europeanism is the way forward. What goes around comes around. If you give respect, you will get respect.  And, again contra my critics, I do not say that all Europeans are fungible and the same in every way; it is instead a matter of respect and ingroup identity.  

Just because I justifiably critique and reject Der Movement that does not mean I have moderated or rejected hardcore White racial nationalism; indeed, I am as radical and dedicated as ever. However, I have realized that the objectives I want actualized will not be achieved by the failed “movement” and its pathetic Quota Queen “leadership” composed of idiots and grifters, lording it over a peanut gallery of retarded freaks and obsessives.  And some people who know me personally in real life, and who know something about my beliefs and history, sometimes become deluded that I have become more moderate in my older age; for example, being willing to talk more about mainstream politics in the age of Trumpian right-wing populism. These people are mistaken and I tell them so; and when I (intentionally) let the mask slip, and make extreme statements, then they learn better.  But for some reason they tend to forget; it is difficult for “normies” – even rightist “normies”- to understand the Far Right mentality and so they always tend to assume that we White nationalists are all mainstream conservatives in hiding and that we will always collapse into being a good Republican.  They need occasional reminders that I for one am as radical, or more so, than ever.

Odds and Ends, 9/4/22

In der news.

Things must have seemed dark for the Jewboys in the early 1990s - Germany was re-united and non-communist nations of Russia and Ukraine emerged from the rubble of the defunct Soviet Union. All sorts of holocausts and pogroms were on the horizon - oy vey!

But it all worked out - Germany destroyed itself by piling on more immigration on top of the Turks they already had and the Neocons antagonized Russia into a new cold war. I suppose that's all that high Jewish IQ Amren always talks about.

Regardless of your views on the covid issue, the following set of facts should be of interest:

• 1. Der Movement has been absolutely obsessed about the covid issue.
• 2. The covid issue is peripheral to the whole issue of race with one major exception.
• 3. That major exception is the fact that the Chinese produce one pandemic after another, causing morbidity and mortality - a form of biological warfare of Chinese against humans.
• 4. It is precisely that one racially-relevant component of the covid issue that Der Movement absolutely avoids mentioning (unless it is to promote the Chinese lie that covid is an American bioweapon), instead focusing on mad gibbering that viruses do not exist and that the Israeli Jewish elites are intentionally murdering their fellow Jews with a "toxic killshot."

One must consider whether Der Movement's covid narrative, the whole HBD race realism ideology, pro-Colored WN 3.0, and much else of "movement" craziness, are all actually part of System-inspired "cognitive infiltration" - destructive memes being intentionally spread among the Nutzi peanut gallery to derail and delegitimize real White nationalism.

Alternatively, it could be just that Der Movement is predominantly composed of stupid and crazy people.

That works too.

Laugh at this.  A summary: It’s interesting that the middle-aged superior Eloi Johnson still has student loans to pay off. That puts his comments about economically useless degrees in a fresh perspective. It also demonstrates the “quality” of your “leaders.”  Now, Johnson is partially correct in saying that guaranteed student loans have contributed to the skyrocketing costs of higher education, akin to how health insurance has stimulated growing medical costs.  Indeed, guaranteed student loans can be viewed as a form of education insurance for the higher education system.  But, that’s only a part of the problem.  The main reason is the explosion of college/university administration, including the diversity apparatus. Note that an increasing trend is to replace full time faculty with poorly paid adjuncts – so the costs of higher education are not due to the faculty (the opposite in fact).  When you have dozens of (highly paid) deans, and other administrators, at a single school, each with a staff of drooling idiots, that costs much money.

I agree with Johnson’s comments about the Trump raid. However, what does that say about Der Movement that they cannot take advantage of all of the chaos in today’s America?  And then consider leftist politicians who make divisive statements and speeches denouncing the tens of millions of Trump supporters out there, many of whom are already primed to accept pro-White politics. The times are propitious for productive political and metapolitical work. And yet the only things Der Movement does is rattle the tin cup and talk about high Jewish and Asian IQ.  

Johnson’s comments about predictions were amusing considering how often Johnson and his ilk are wrong about just about everything and anything, while the insane paranoid Sallis is invariably correct.

Johnson’s comments about the benefits of urban life are reasonable, but his talking about science and technology seems to me hypocritical when his website promotes anti-STEM attitudes and mad gibbering about “viruses do not exist” and other Luddite hobbit hole craziness.

His other comments are more or less also reasonable, but Johnson takes commercial ancestry testing results to the percentage point at face value and thus has to do moronic “spin” on a 1% Berber result, as if that result has any real meaning. STEM!

Another Southron "movement" hero:

Freeman called himself a liberal, even on race. By the standards of his time, he was. He opposed the Ku Klux Klan, calling it an “organization that stinks to high heaven.” In 1917, he championed the cause of a black teenager whom a judge had sentenced to death for murder. Freeman argued that Aubrey Barrett hadn’t received legal counsel. He attacked the judge in print so ferociously that he was cited for contempt of court. The citation was dropped and Barrett was spared the death penalty. Freeman said that “neither the details of the murder” nor “the guilt or innocence” mattered to him “in the slightest...

...Freeman had paternalistic views of blacks. He supported better conditions for them...

WN 3.0! WN 3.0 is of course an alliance between paternalistic High Trusters, Liptonite Negroes and other Coloreds (Neil!) who know their place, and HuWhite Jews, all united against the dastardly White ethnics.

Lind was actually predictive and not merely descriptive.

SJW Accountability

Holding them accountable.

What should be our attitude toward White leftists, particularly the worst of the bunch who actively betray racial interests?  Should they be ostracized and left out of any future ethnostate?  Should the sinner be embraced and forgiven and allowed into the ethnostate (or forced in)?  Should we endlessly try to reason with them, convert them, and forgive their past if they repent? 

Many people in Der Movement seem very reticent to reject White leftists. The idea is that White leftists are a potential pool of recruits. But is that it really? I believe that a major reason why Der Movement doesn’t want to write off White leftists is that so many SJWs are Nord types, and the “movement” doesn’t want to give up on such “superior stock.”  Indeed, Der Movement no doubt prefers Eloi Antifa to Morlock White nationalists, so the door that’s slammed in the face of the latter must always be left open a crack for the former – justifying it with “sometimes leftists wake up and are reformed.”

Yes, sometimes they do wake up, but it is rare, and even when they do, one has to wonder about the sincerity and durability of their conversion. Given that there are genetic components to political orientation (with leftists being more prone to “openness to experience” and with higher thresholds for danger and disgust) one not only wonders about the authenticity of such converts but whether introducing their genes into a White ethnostate genepool is really a wise idea.

I say instead that at some point such specimens need to be held accountable for their race treason, written off, considered traitors, and removed from consideration as being part of our White ingroup.

They’ve made their bed and now they’ll have to lie in it.

And Whites involved in inter-racial marriages, particularly those with mixed-race children, should be included in this ostracized category, regardless of their political outlook.

Doppelganger Genetics

And other news.  In all cases, emphasis added.

From a Gab correspondent – it’s all in the genes. The paper.

Of interest to me, these doppelgangers are not particularly similar in their overall ancestral genome (related to EGI), compared to random co-ethnics.:

Related to population stratification, among the 16 look-alike pairs, 13 were of European ancestry, 1 Hispanic, 1 East Asian, and 1 Central-South Asian. Although background genetic ancestry is a principal determinant for genetic variance between human populations, we observed that of the 13 White look-alike pairs, 7 (54%) did not cluster genetically, suggesting alternative purposes for shared genetic variation between look-alike pairs. To further determine ancestry, genotyping of the 16 look-alike cases was performed using GenomeStudio v.2.0.5 to create PACKPED Plink files (STAR Methods). Their genomic data were merged with 1,980 West Eurasian, Asian, and Native American individuals genotyped in the Affymetrix Human Origins (HO) array (Lazaridis et al., 2014), where the remaining dataset held 175,469 common SNPs. PCA was generated with the HO individuals (Figure S3) and look-alike individuals (Figure S3B for West Eurasia and Figure S3C for West Eurasia, Asia, and America) (Price et al., 2006; Patterson et al., 2006) (STAR Methods). We observed that almost all the look-alike pairs cluster close to each other according to their countries of origin (or self-attributed ethnic background) (Figure S3). However, they are not more closely related than other pairs of individuals from the same populations taken at random.

So the look-alikes do not seem to have more genetic kinship with each other than are random co-ethnics to each other; the similarities seem to be derived from a specific sub-set of genes. From the standpoint of EGI, this is interesting.  Overall EGI may not be affected by this phenomenon, but inclusive fitness defined as the ability to influence pursuit of genetic interests may be affected, if the traits influence genetic continuity.  Thus:

Examples of independent questionnaire variables (such as height, weight, smoking habit, or level of education) further demonstrate that look-alike pairs are closer than non look-alike pairs (Figure 4C). Thus, humans with a similar face might also share a more comprehensive physical, and probably behavioral, phenotype that relates to their shared genetic variants. Our study supports the concept of heritability estimation that individuals correlated at the phenotype level share a significant number of genotypic correlations.

On the other hand, this all underscores the problem with phenotypism – should one favor one’s unrelated lookalike (and the data show that these people are not cryptic relatives) over one’s more closely related familial kin?  The fetishist types believe that it seems, despite its maladaptive aspects.

With this doppelganger situation, one wonders if there are certain gene complexes extant in different populations, and when these (by random chance? some other reason?) happen to get combined in individuals in similar patterns, create (familial-unrelated) people with similar physical appearances and similarities in other attributes. A deeper dive into this phenomenon would likely be a fruitful area for further genetics research.

Other news:

Reading more about Late Antiquity I’m continually struck by a problem in Der Movement’s narrative of “racial decline” being the cause of the Fall of Rome. If this is the case, why did the Eastern Roman Empire, which became the Byzantine Empire, last for about 1,000 years past the Western Roman Empire when, by Der Movement’s standards, the East’s population was far more inferior and degenerate that that of the West?  Indeed, archaeogenetics show that Rome was becoming genetically more “northern and western” during Late Antiquity and of course the West included Gaul and had by that time various Goths and Franks in imperial service, while the East was composed of those “southern and eastern” populations that were relatively more prominent in Rome during the peak of imperial power and which Der Movement blames for Rome’s collapse.  Then to make matters even worse, during the reign of Justinian, the East conquered Italy, North Africa, and a slice of Spain, defeating the heroically superior Goths and Vandals.  That is all backwards if we take “movement” dogma to be truth.

Unwrapping Der Movement’s Mummified Brain

More lies about Ancient Egypt. In all cases, emphasis added.

Counter-Currents lies about Ancient Egypt. 

Interestingly, the ancient Egyptians were genetically closer to Europeans than they were to modern Egyptians, who have a substantial degree of sub-Saharan admixture. Their genetic composition remained remarkably stable over the course of their history, and the flow of sub-Saharan DNA into Egypt did not occur until after the Roman period.

I have previously written about this paper and “movement” lies about it.  Also see here. 

The PCA of the Egypt paper (see Fig 4 and supplementary Figure 3) show Ancient Egyptians in the same general area as modern Near Easterners and close to Modern Egyptians, certainly closer to Modern Egyptians than to any Europeans. While that has all the usual caveats of PCA, these PCA data do not support the idea that Ancient Egyptians were genetically closer to Europeans than to Modern Egyptians and any semi-literate reading of the paper would have told you that. Even though it is true that two populations can be close in PCA without having the same ancestry, in the case of Ancient and Modern Egyptians we are considering two populations from the same locale, with a known historical link.  

The f3 data from Figure 5 are more equivocal and could be used to support the Counter-Currents narrative. in this sense, the Counter-Currents argument here is not completely flawed  The problem is that outgroup f3 suffers from some of the same flaws as Fst, and is sensitive to the choice of populations used. All of these problems could have been avoided if the authors had simply utilized genetic kinship assays. The f3 statistic is in my opinion an absolutely lousy approach for measuring genetic similarity.  The fact that the PCA and f3 data match poorly indicates a problem here.

In summary, the PCA data refute the Counter-Currents narrative, while the F3 data seem to support it.  But what about Negro admixture?  First, let's consider the mitochondrial data (such data are essentially useless for individuals but have some utility for larger sample sizes):

We observe highly similar haplogroup profiles between the three ancient groups (Fig. 3a), supported by low FST values (<0.05) and P values >0.1 for the continuity test. Modern Egyptians share this profile but in addition show a marked increase of African mtDNA lineages L0–L4 up to 20% (consistent with nuclear estimates of 80% non-African ancestry reported in Pagani et al.17). Genetic continuity between ancient and modern Egyptians cannot be ruled out by our formal test despite this sub-Saharan African influx, while continuity with modern Ethiopians17, who carry >60% African L lineages, is not supported (Supplementary Data 5). To further test genetic affinities and shared ancestry with modern-day African and West Eurasian populations we performed a principal component analysis (PCA) based on haplogroup frequencies and Multidimensional Scaling of pairwise genetic distances. We find that all three ancient Egyptian groups cluster together (Fig. 3b), supporting genetic continuity across our 1,300-year transect. Both analyses reveal higher affinities with modern populations from the Near East and the Levant compared to modern Egyptians (Fig. 3b,c).

As regards levels of Negro admixture: There is ADDITIONAL Negro ancestry in the moderns, not starting from a ancient baseline of zero. While it is true that the bulk of Negro ancestry came in the past 2000 years, the ancients did have a little. Ancient Egyptians were essentially Near Easterners with trace Negro ancestry; modern Egyptians have a larger Negro influx. From the paper:

….modern Egyptians inherit 8% more ancestry from African ancestors than the three ancient Egyptians do, which is also consistent with the ADMIXTURE results discussed above. Absolute estimates of African ancestry using these two methods in the three ancient individuals range from 6 to 15%, and in the modern samples from 14 to 21% depending on method and choice of reference populations

However, we note that all our genetic data were obtained from a single site in Middle Egypt and may not be representative for all of ancient Egypt. It is possible that populations in the south of Egypt were more closely related to those of Nubia and had a higher sub-Saharan genetic component, in which case the argument for an influx of sub-Saharan ancestries after the Roman Period might only be partially valid and have to be nuanced.

Der Movement = wrong.

Whither the pan-European Perspective?

A re-evaluation?

For background, see this.  Also see this.  See this about the TOO controversy.  And see this. Then see my interpretation of Yockey’s comments on these issues, particularly in the last chapter of Imperium.

In the wake of the TOO dust-up, a Gab correspondent recently asked me if I still subscribe to pan-Europeanism. The answer is yes (but obviously not with the likes of the TOO crowd), but I am somewhat more pessimistic – I believe that the road to authentic pan-Europeanism will be longer, and far more bumpy, than I had heretofore imagined. I do not share Yockey’s optimism that the importance of differences between Europeans are no longer salient.

In theory, from a prescriptive level, Yockey was certainly correct. Today, with the worldwide racial crisis, with the clash of civilizations, with the threat of mass migration, with the Sword of Damocles of White Genocide hanging over our heads, how is it possible that intra-European feuding and hostility, and subracial conflict, is actually still consuming our thoughts and our energy? How is it possible that what Yockey called Culture Retardation (and indeed it is literally retardation) is an important factor in intra-European relations?  Is it any wonder Whites always lose?

In the “movement,” particularly in America, Nordicism has made a comeback, with the assistance of HBD and the juvenile jackasses of the Alt Right.  In Europe, economic frictions due to the EU and its policies, as well as problems over migration and, overall, the dominance of the union by Germany, has increased irritation between North and South, East and West.  We have therefore moved backward with respect to the pan-European perspective and people are “digging in their heels” and refusing to be reasonable, falling back on narrow identities, much to the delight of Culture Retarding ethnonationalists who exult in their “petty nationalism” as well to the delight of the ever-divisive Nordicists.  And, of course, since every action breeds a reaction, one observes some angry pushback from rightists of Southern (especially) and Eastern European extraction.

There is plenty of blame to go around on all sides. It is useless to try and put specific percentages of blame for particular groups; let us just say that no one is completely innocent and no one is completely guilty, although I believe one side is more guilty than the other. Putting aside the issue of ethnonationalism here (addressed in many other of my posts), let us concentrate on Nordicism (and related ethnic fetishisms).

As evidence that the Nordicists are more to blame, I can not only point out the history of White racial nationalism since WWII and the history of constant Nordicist aggression against non-Nordics, particularly in the American scene (the latest TOO nonsense being just the latest example), but we can also consider the opinions of others. For example, in the early 1960s, the Nordic Belgian Jean Thiriart was castigating Nordicists and Germanocentric intra-European racism for creating destructive division among Europeans. And, of course, fifteen years earlier, Yockey was criticizing the "vertical racism" of the Nordicists for the same reason in his book Imperium. Further, one can certainly find other examples of Northern European Far Rightists critiquing Nordicism; it certainly isn't only Southern and Eastern Europeans who do so. However, while one can of course denounce Nordicism, one can still be objective enough try to understand Nordicist stereotypes of Europe’s South and East, and the degree to which those stereotypes have some basis in reality.

The Nord looks at the different peoples of Europe and sees different levels of accomplishment and productivity (at least over the last several centuries), as well as differences in phenotypic aesthetics that they correlate with accomplishment and productivity.  More fundamentally, the Nord sees differences in character and behavior. Thus, the Nord sees Southern Europeans (particularly Italians) as the Eternal Schettino – an inept clown; a superficial and lazy “wine, women, and song” hedonist who is always hysterical and cowardly in a crisis. The Nord sees Eastern Europeans as the Eternal Putin – a corrupt thug; a crude, brutal Asiatic with an ill-disguised inferiority complex, and ill-disguised envious hostility, toward the West.

Are those stereotypes precisely accurate?  Do they covey the full measure of those European peoples?  Of course not.  But, as do all stereotypes, do they contain some basic elements of truth? Of course they do – just like negative stereotypes of Northwest Europeans also contain some basic elements of truth.

Southern and Eastern Europeans must absolutely demand an end to Nordicist attitudes, BUT, at the same time, they must act in such a way to dispel the negative stereotypes and thus make Nordicism superfluous and ridiculous. Northwest Europeans absolutely have a right to demand that Southern and Eastern Europeans stop being the Eternal Schettino and the Eternal Putin, but they themselves must stop being the Eternal Merkel – forever arrogantly lecturing and scolding Europe’s South and East, while at the exact same time endlessly pathetically surrendering and groveling to The World of Color.  All Europeans have some significant room for improvement.

I am not optimistic. As I said, people are “digging in their heels,” digging their memetic trenches; they are not open to reason, compromise, and conciliation. Far from being the lunatic “Medicist” my critics claim I am, I try to see all sides of this issue.  But the aim of that reasonableness MUST be to eventually solve the problem.  I am not interesting in discussing these issues as a theoretical exercise, or to justify culture retarding attitudes, or to throw my hands up and say the problem is insoluble and that Europe (broadly defined as all peoples of European ancestry worldwide) is a house divided, and will remain so until it inevitably collapses.

I truthfully at the current time do not know the answer to this problem.  I have tried many different approaches; the problem only gets worse. The problem needs to be resolved in the direction of a pan-European solution; if not, Europe dies and the worldwide community of European peoples dies, and race and civilization fade away into oblivion. However that solution is not going to be possible until sufficient numbers of reasonable people on all sides of this problem decide that it must be so. Likely what is necessary as a start is for all sides to state what it is they want as the ultimate outcome of the process of dealing with this issue, and what are the possible areas where wants overlap and where they may conflict.

Those who agree with me and who want to work with me on this know where to find me, politically speaking.  I have my blogs and a Gab account.  The Sallis Groupuscle blog is open to others to contribute.

That is all I will say on this issue for today.

Uncharted Territory

An uncertain future.

The current situation for Whites worldwide is very grim.  We all know this. What to do about it?

I have often suggested strategy and tactics to follow, but I may as well as be talking to the wind, with all of the attention the hobbyists pay to any of that.  Der Movement was, is, and will remain a catastrophic failure and a laughingstock, good only as a bogeyman to allow the “watchdog groups” to effectively fundraise with hysterical scaremongering tactics.  Decades of activity and support, millions of dollars of donations and “membership dues,” and the grand total of “movement” “accomplishment” is to leave Whites worse off than they have ever been, squandering the golden opportunity afforded by the emergence of Trumpian right-wing populism, culminating in the (predicted by me here) humiliating collapse of the Alt Right.  No, if anything positive emerges from the rubble of the current race crisis, it will mostly likely be due to real leaders who percolate up from the grass roots, hard-headed realists unencumbered by absurd and destructive “movement” baggage.

What needs to occur, in the most fundamental manner is that Whites need to defend their interests, in all circumstances, forcefully and without apology, aggressively and with militant conviction. More than that at this point would be pure speculation. What the outcome will be, and what precisely needs to be done to try to achieve a positive outcome, cannot definitely be stated at this time.  We are in uncharted territory.  The situation is so fluid, the sociopolitical terrain so treacherous that concrete prescriptions and predictions would likely be misleading or just plain wrong.

Will we achieve the grant victory promised by Der Movement – the “ethnostate” in America and a racially homogeneous racial nationalist Europe?  Will we be a stateless tribe making our way through the morass of a ruined history, hoping to build a new civilization, but meanwhile prioritizing the struggle for survival?  Will we have to accept a continuous struggle of “democratic multiculturalism” within a multiracial, multicultural state?  Will we be fooled into buying to Kaufmann’s poison and that of Mounk, allowing ourselves to be gently miscegenated out of existence while redefining mixed race mongrels as “White” and preserving the fiction of a continuing (debased) “White culture?  Will we more forcefully and violently go extinct?  Or fade away in some other manner?  Will we achieve the Nutzi dream of total world domination?  Will we reach the stars or will we drown in the mud?

I do not know.  Again – uncharted territory.  The only thing I can say with absolute certainty is to repeat what I wrote above:

Whites need to defend their interests, in all circumstances, forcefully and without apology, aggressively and with militant conviction.

The Evolution of Civilizations and Odds and Ends

In der news.

Important: Western Destiny Book Review - Quigley's The Evolution of Civilizations.

Following up on this. The Norwegian case bears further analysis. I know any extremely ethnocentric WNs who of course do not like non-Whites, but none of them advocate persecuting mixed-race children and putting them in mental institutions because of their ancestry, like what the altruistic individualists of Norway did to Norwegian-German hybrids (despite the fact that Germans are relatively ethnically close to Norwegians).

If the Norwegians didn't want those children around, they could have simply deported them all to Germany; it's not like the Germans at that time were in any position to refuse.

But, no. The Norwegians were so enraged by the mothers violating collective social norms by consorting with the Germans that they became filled with malicious hatred toward the innocent children, who they viciously punished.

That does not sound like altruistic individualism to me.

Pierre de Craonsays:

July 27, 2022 at 10:28 am

Whatever “constructive criticism” there has been in this exchange has come from one side only: that of this site’s host. Thanks to Ted Sallis, mutuality has been notable solely by its absence.

Moreover, KM’s characterization of some of Sallis’s remarks as “noncollegial” stretches the true scholar’s gentlemanly decorum—specifically, in sparing no effort to see his critic’s comments, however intemperate, as springing from impartiality and motivated by a quest for truth—to its limits.

Fuck you, asshole. How's that for non-collegiality, you retarded nitwit?

You know, I was going to state my usual boilerplate that my criticism of MacDonald's work is business and not personal (which is of course true). However, after reading the snide comments of the superficial midwit Pierre de Craon my attitude is thus adjusted. The restrained, conciliatory, and friendly attitude manifested in my Riposte to KMacD post is now replaced by a more robust and combative approach.

No Nordicism at TOO of course:

Captainchaossays:

July 27, 2022 at 3:31 pm

Ted Swarthis is a greaseball of Eye-talian descent who has openly stated that he wishes to see racially superior Northern Europeans mongrelized by Southern Europeans. Nordicism needs to be promoted to protect Nordic ethnic genetic interests against such an outcome.

That is of course at outright lie, like everything else Nordicists say. Please point out anything in my work that says that I wish to see "Northern Europeans mongrelized by Southern Europeans."

Who wants to miscegenate who?  Let's see:

• 1. The Feller separation plan, once endorsed by Duke, placed Southern Italians and Greeks with Puerto Ricans in "Minoria."
• 2. McCulloch's original separation plan had Southern Europeans together with various forms of non-Whites.
• 3. Who collaborated with the Jews to racially integrate White ethnic neighborhoods and their schools, and who has been enabling illegal Afro-Asiatic immigration into Italy?
• 4. Who lives in other people's nations as "expats" - mating with native women?

The Nordicist cries out in pain as he strikes you.

I present facts; they can only reply with childish insults. All of their claims of superiority are compensation for the fact that they are mere pale shadows of their ancestors.

Just like what happened to the Meds after the Fall of Rome, the Nords are now well into their dysgenic phase. It is unfortunate since I agree with Thiriart that we need all Europeans, but now we are all degenerate, you and we together.

I have just begun the struggle against MacDonald. The old carefree and friendly Sallis is over.

...an argument in Sallis’s writing…

Have you noticed that certain retired American professors do not know the proper convention for using apostrophes in English language writing?

I suppose that the Herrenvolk write as they damn please. Rules and conventions are for lesser beings!

I oppose mass vaccination with the dangerous mRNA genetic slurry...

Challenge to Jeelvy - without doing any further research, based only on the information and knowledge you had when you wrote that, please explain to us what you think it is how those vaccines work.

Counter-Currents’ pet antivaxx lunatic Stronza:

Standard issue vaccines are also bad for everyone, all of the time. There has been an anti-vaccine crusade for over 100 years. I find it tragic that people who won’t take the corona 19 mRNA shot still make sure their little darlings get their 72 doses by the time they’ve finished school. Yes, you read that right. There are several good books explaining why inoculations are bad news.

If Der Movement wins, it'll be worse than it is now. They'll set up their Bring Out Your Dead ethnostate at a 14th century level of technology, which will last as long as the Chinese want to keep it around as a zoological exhibit to illustrate how stupid and primitive Whites are. Der Movement is worse than the System, since with then System there is still hope that real racial nationalists can win and build a better society.  With Der Movement, racial nationalism will be co-opted to build the Bring Out Your Dead hobbit hole state of no hope and no future.

Gaston from Gab writes:

The criticism of MacDonald can boils down to three points imo:

1) As it has been already pointed out, it doesn't make absolutely no sense his definition of "individualism" as basically "social conformism and cohesion based on individual merits instead of family kinship", since the latter is just, well, social conformism and cohesion based on individual merits.

2) Has he shown any good evidence that his form of "individualism" evolved in hunter gatherers from the far north? Speaking logically, it makes more sense that hunter gatherers would evolve to favour social cohesion based on familiar kinship (under the hypothesis that this behaviour has some genetic basis), since their "societies" basically revolved around extended families, whereas it makes logical sense that social cohesion based on individual merits would have been selected for in settled, agriculturalist groups since for them in order to work they need much larger societal structures that vastly exceed the boundaries of one's family/clan, so people resorting to the family kinship would not be able to mantain an agriculturalist society. I do not claim that I have exhausted all the possibilities but in my opinion the hunter-gatherer hypothesis would favour the other kind of social conformism and cohesion MacDonald has in mind

3) As it has already been pointed out, the family structures in south and east Europe aren't as strong as implied by MacDonald but are actually "egalitarian", and I might add that also the "familiar amoralism" in south Italy (since he takes it as an example) is very limitedly concerned with actual family members but has more to do with "family" intended as one's personal circle, and such circles often work in the same manner he depicts nordic egalitarianism to work, that is social cohesion and conformism based on individual merits- which is basically how every informal spontaneous group functions

I agree.

More Gaston:

I think the first point can be expanded: MacDonald doesn't define precisely what he means by "egalitarianism" and "collectivism", so his theory comes out muddled up, but my impression is that by equating partially "egalitarianism" with "individualism" while speaking of hunter gatherers MacDonald means that this egalitarianism is born out of the desire not to be dominated, so out of an individualistic attitude, and one can conceptually make sense of the idea of individualists acting collectivistic in a manner that doesn't clash with their individualism, that is when each member by his own will agrees to be bound by the group or a pact, but with each of these two concepts social conformism runs counter any individualistic attitude, since social conformism entails to be dominated by social conventions (up to a point) and enforces cohesion out of external sanctions (counting social anxiety as an external sanction as well) rather than out of "internal" free choice.

Furthermore, hunter gatherer groups are typically based on kinship, I can't grasp how MacDonald inferred that hunter gatherers in the north evolved to ground their societal ties in individual merits instead of kinship, and indeed I propose another view: hunter gatherer "societies" are often egalitarian but settled hunter gatherer groups tend to display less egalitarian social structures, so it simply seems that higher population density(as it happens in settled communities) leads to more complex social structures so a kinship based mechanism for social ties can't work and a more "impersonal" one is required, and I think that both social conformism and what we can call "hierarchical respect" (that sort of social cohesion based on individual merits MacDonald talks about) as societal mechanisms

to ensure that larger groups do not dismember into smaller ones (let's say that smaller groups are self-standing instead of being sub-units of a larger one when they do not cooperate to pursue common goals).

Hierarchical respect is more compatible with hunter gatherer's egalitarianism and individualism than social conformism, which runs counter to it, and it may well be that such a tendency is tied to higher frequency of (more recent) hunter gatherer genes, at least it makes conceptually sense, and it can be that other human groups/races evolved during the neolithic stressing more one mechanism instead of the other (east asians stressing social conformity for example), though it's clear that both are contemporaneously present in all human populations, though in different proportions, but MacDonald's failed to show how southern and eastern Europeans are more social conformist rather than "aristocratic egalitarian" than north Europeans (indeed the "aristocratic egalitarianism" MacDonald puts as central to Western civilization originated in SE Europe, Greece specifically, at least as a civilizational paradigm, so to speak)

Laugh at this.  Yes, the small area of Northern Europe that is centered upon Central Europe, extends down to Naples, and excludes most of Scandinavia.

Clowns.

anonymsays:

July 28, 2022 at 6:41 am

Sounds like simple envy. Accusing germanic and scandinavian people of being nordicists is laughable. What else should we be? His hysteria about disrespect for southern Europeans is imagined (even though there would be a lot of reason for it, considering how the European Union is more or less is a wealth transfer organization, redistributing money from Germany and Scandinavia to Italy, Spain and Greece.)

Yes, to the extent that Europe's south really gets wealth transfer from the north, that's not good and taking handouts results in contempt towards you (but see this from Catiline; see this from Gaston - note Italy). But the issue is complex. I am hearing Balkanoids complain that their countries are not only being deindustrialized, but the agricultural base is also being strip-mined, because "EU rules" (i.e., German-French dictates) tell the Balkanoids that they cannot produce X,Y, and Z and must instead import the items from Western Europe. So, if you wreck people's economies, then don't complain when they have no money. How the hell are the Balkanoids going to pay for the imports, much less fund their own social infrastructure, if they are not allowed to produce and sell anything?

In truth, the EU is a genetic interests and territory transfer organization, redistributing the EGI and carrying capacity of Europe to Afro-Asiatic invaders, and if we agree with MacDonald's thesis - and I assume this scum "anonym" does - then Nordics are to blame for it.

Which is it? Have Nordics wrecked the West with their pathological altruism OR is MacDonald wrong? You can't have it both ways, Herrenvolk.

And don't be hysterical about disrespect, you runty penned up chicken Morlocks, you low IQ North African Negroid Moops! Now run along and watch True Romance (mentioned by Der Movement every five minutes) and get over your insane paranoid hysteria, you Eye-talian greaseballs of Pure Black ancestry.

Laugh hysterically at this exchange (emphasis added):

Alfredsays:

July 27, 2022 at 7:36 pm

“highly individualistic but also as highly conformist—what I regard as a paradox in need of explanation”

If we consider an “individualist” to be a rambunctious type unafraid to speak his mind, it’s a paradox. But if by “individualist” you mean someone who is not very attached to his family, never calls his mom, it’s not a paradox. There’s no reason to suppose that this kind of person would be a meek, let’s not the rock the boat type of person. The only paradox is between “individualist” and “collective.”

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Kevin MacDonaldsays:

July 28, 2022 at 7:25 am

Exactly.

So the TOO definition of "individualism" - which MacDonald supports with "Exactly" - is "someone who is not very attached to his family, never calls his mom."  

At this point, I am seriously entertaining the idea that the Mossad kidnapped the real Kevin MacDonald and replaced him with a surgically-modified "double" whose purpose is to delegitimize MacDonald's legacy so as to discredit his work about the Jews. How is it possible that the same person who wrote The Trilogy now agrees that an "individualist" is defined as someone who never calls their mother? Am I the only one who thinks that is absolutely ludicrous?

More MacDonald silliness I forgot to correct in my main riposte:

...the settlement patterns of the three groups that populated pre-historic Western Europe—the Scandinavian hunter-gatherers, the Indo-Europeans (mainly north-central Europe and northern Italy), and the Early Farmers from Anatolia (mainly in the southern part of Western Europe).

Err...the "Scandinavian hunter-gatherers" were a mix of WHG and EHG; hunter-gatherers were not unique to Scandinavia. Indo-Europeans were not unique (I don't know how to interpret "mainly) in the areas designated, and Neolithic farmer ancestry is found throughout all of Europe and is very high in the southern part of Eastern Europe as well, certainly not just Southwestern Europe. Further, Europeans are a mix of these three groups to different extents (granted, some may have very little of one, but still...), it is not like we have three completely distinct racial populations in Europe going back thousands of years. If ignorance is bliss, then the TOO crowd must be a bunch of very happy campers indeed.

And so the curtain falls on The Occidental Observer, the music fades away, and the saddened audience shuffles away to call their mothers on the phone, thus revealing themselves as diehard collectivists.

Ted Swarthis an Eye-talian greaseball? No, no, a thousand times, no! I am actually a seven foot tall ultra-Nordic Swede, who makes Dolph Lundgren look like Danny DeVito by comparison. Now, excuse me, I have to cater to the group of Nigerian migrants I am hosting in my Stockholm apartment - they need to be well fed before I ship them off to Italy. And, no, I am not going to call my mother on the phone. I am, after all, an individualist.

More than anything else, HBD Nordicism is actually bad for Nordics; see this comment. HBD has been a curse on pro-White activism for decades; when is this HBD pseudoscientific nightmare going to end?