Your Prosperity is Good
Strategies redux.
I have, many times, discussed ideas about what should be done to pursue pro-White objectives. My recent Toward a New Movement series is an example of this. I have long promoted building a New Movement, with a tripartite strategy of metapolitics, electoral politics, and infrastructure building/community building/elite vanguard building.
I also advised activists to prioritize their own well-being and their own interests before investing in the “movement.” Considering this past advice, my previous comments on this are relevant:
Right. Suggesting that scientists start quitting their careers and working in bakeries is really going to attract STEM folks and fill the ranks of the Far Right with the influential highly educated professionals we need! Certainly!
This guy is an idiot. We instead need to promote the idea of having our people be successful, well-connected, and financially secure. You are not, at the current time, going to convince enough Whites, in general, to disengage from the System to make a difference, but if Nutzis listen to this guy, we will instead create a generation of activists with no money, no career, no future, who sit in their parent's basement…
This is sort of a “tragedy of the commons” situation, a form of free-riding. If large numbers of Whites more or less simultaneously “drop out” then that could do real damage to the System. But if only some – certain committed activists – do so, and the rest “defect,” then those who do so will pay the price and the others will not, and there will be insufficient numbers to make a real difference. The same principle applies to calls to “make yourself public, be an overt activist under your real identity” or any other such things. Those who follow the call bear the brunt of the costs, others who do nothing may benefit but incur no costs, and the lesson learned by everyone is not to heed the call. And, again, the numbers who would follow the (bad) advice would be insufficient to make any real difference.
There is the “misery loves company” ploy to consider as well - the coping mechanism whereby someone who may believe they have made a bad choice will feel better about own their error if they get others to join them in making the same mistake. Hence, people who have thrown away careers for nothing, and who may – perhaps subconsciously – regret it, call for others to do the same. However, you are not obligated to engage in self-destruction so as to make others feel better about their bad choices.
And even if there was some validity in the call for self-immolation, one has to ask - for what and for whom this sacrifice is being made and is it worth it? I was always amused in the past when such types would compare the situation to the Spartans sacrificing themselves at Thermopylae. Is that a reasonable comparison? With respect to the Spartans, the men went to their deaths with the full support and admiration of their countrymen, they knew their sacrifice would be honored and their surviving families cared for, and, while they could not know the ultimate outcome of the Greek-Persian conflict, they knew that their countrymen would fight on. In contrast, pro-White activists today are scorned by large numbers of the people they are fighting for, who are to a large degree degenerate, who will oppose, not fight for, those objectives that the activists sacrifice for, the families of the sacrificing activists will suffer, and the “leaders” of these activists are a far cry from being a Leonidas. Should you sacrifice yourself for a “movement” led by those who gave you The Pilleater Chronicles, Unite the Right, voting for Biden, HBD, self-described Yellow Supremacy, philo-Semitism, Nutzi fetishism, “traditionalist” freakishness, constant failure and bad judgment, and endless grifting?
In contrast, I urge activists, particularly younger activists who have most of their lives ahead of them, to take care of themselves first, get educated, become professionals or learn a trade, become financially secure including making prudent long-term investments for retirement, etc. It is similar to what you are told to do in an emergency on an airplane – first secure your own oxygen mask and then help others. And, in the long run, you will be better situated to fight for your race if you are a person of substance as opposed to a destitute blogger in your parents’ basement. Of course, you shouldn’t let “the good life” get in the way of doing what is right – and that is an argument the other side will make, that “comfortable people won’t fight” – but in reality most of your "leaders" were or are people who had first established careers and had a solid education before becoming activists, and some of them are still living rather well (with your money). So, if they can do it, why not you? Why must you give up right from the start, sacrificing everything, while they get to enjoy their five to six figure incomes?
If you sacrifice yourself for Der Movement, will you get any loyalty in return? Or will they assert you are the wrong ethnicity, question your “Whiteness,” or, perhaps, if you are under 6’2” in height, label you as a “useless manlet?” Or, perhaps, you question your fearless leaders and get “banned” and labelled “insane.” Guess what? If you have sacrificed your success and prosperity for the “movement,” you will not magically get back what you recklessly threw away if and when the “movement” turns on you. You’ll be a double failure – no career prospects AND no place in their freakshow “movement.” Der Movement does not exactly inspire the confidence for people to make life-changing decisions in its support. Think hard before making life decisions that may be practically irreversible.
Further, either main strategic outlook – Suvorov’s Law or Worse is Better – is compatible with my advice to promote personal success. If the former (Suvorov's Law), then pushing the System to try piecemeal reform will start the process of its toppling, relaxing repression and setting the stage for more radicalism and revolution, and that process is best initiated by people connected to the System, with leverage over it. Therefore, it is optimal to have activists in the professions, in positions of authority, to promote these processes. If the latter (Worse is Better) is true, if things need to first get much worse, then no one is going to be storming the ramparts until the situation significantly degenerates, and then the level of discomfort will be high enough to prompt more and more Whites - including successful Whites - to be active. If this is so, there is no reason to jump the gun now (a small number of Whites “dropping out” today will not make things so much worse to provoke change). In other words, if change can only occur when things are very bad, and we are not yet at that point, why impoverish yourself at a time in which revolutionary change is not possible? Why impoverish yourself when it will not change anything except making your own life miserable? With respect to the idea that people who are too comfortable will not act, if things get so bad that change is provoked, then it is unlikely that many Whites will remain so comfortable that they would refuse to get involved. Societal collapse will affect everyone. On the other hand, individuals with more success and security would be better situated to leverage the situation for our benefit. Things would get bad for them as well and provoke reaction, but they would still be better off and in a position of influence and in a position to both survive and to help others.
In virtually any scenario, it makes sense to have people on our side in positions of power and influence, a degree of relative financial security, education and skills, professions and trades, people who can direct events in fruitful directions. It doesn’t seem to make too much sense to preach downward mobility for our people.
heroism consists in refusing to work for the evil empire, even at the cost of one’s own prosperity and status.
Nick JeelvyJune 3, 2021 at 2:30 pm
Maybe not go Galt as much as accept underemployment. Do not provide rare or irreplaceable labor for the system. Instead of being an engineer, start a bakery. Instead of being an attorney, brew beer and mead. Instead of being a soldier, open a gym.
That is madness. Meanwhile, Jews and Asians are constantly upwardly mobile and crowd Whites out from the professions – should we enable that? Jews and Asians will be doctors, lawyers, engineers, scientists, etc. - Whitey, go in your basement and brew some beer. Better yet, mead. Lunatics.
Jeelvy’s advice is exactly the opposite of what I preach. Who should you trust? Someone like me who tells you to take care of yourself and do the right thing for your family, or the Counter-Currents scum who, on the one hand, panhandle for D’Nations, but on the other hand, preach downward mobility, unemployment – Whitey, live in your parent’s basement, eating bread and mustard sandwiches, but send what little money you have to Grand Poobah Johnson. After all, when you are brewing mead as your life’s work, “Trevor Lynch” needs to go to the movies, and movies cost money, don’t you know. And, hey, don’t forget about your estate planning! First, you wreck your life following Counter-Currents advice promoting downward mobility. Then, you give them money – what little you have – when you are alive. Finally, when you die, instead of leaving whatever pittance you have left to your own family, leave it to Counter-Currents instead. After all, think of all the movie tickets and Scandza forum visits that require funding. Remember – those who give live in the Golden Age today, and don’t you forget it!
What disgusting, destructive, low life filth the Counter-Currents crew are. They preach self-destruction and then ask for your money; I on the other hand, tell you to take care of yourself first and I ask for no money. Then they turn around and call me “insane” and a “paranoid piece of crap.”
Let’s be honest though. The fact that I once had involvement with Counter-Currents as a writer demonstrates fairly poor judgment on my part. In a mood of introspective self-criticism, I must say that virtually all of my past work for Der Movement does not reflect well on my judgment, at least in the past. Hopefully, I’m doing better now.
If anything could be learned from the 2020 election and its aftermath, and especially the crackdown on nationalists and dissidents in the wake of the January 6 events, it’s that there’s no chance of infiltrating the system and subverting it from within.
Nonsense. As there has never been any attempt, in any comprehensive way, to infiltrate the System, how do you know “there’s no chance?” Der Movement has been peddling its Der Tag mentality for decades. I clearly remember one prominent activist – who shall go nameless here – arguing in the early 2000s how “crazy and stupid” it was for any Whites to go to college, enter a profession, invest, save for retirement, do any normal activity, because “the System is definitely going to collapse in the next five to ten years.” Imagine if some naïve fools believed that. They would have wasted the last 15-20 years of their lives. Meanwhile, we have the Grand Poobah Johnson talking about how he thinks winning will take 50 years – what? Are we going to preach downward mobility to Whites for the next half century? Madness.
And what happened to the previous Counter-Currents paradigm of being an “undercover agent?” And if you buy into Turner Diaries scenarios, remember that most of the effective activists in that tale were professionals of some type, and that the presence of White racialists in the US military was crucial to victory. We need to oppose the purge of White rightists from the military, not tell people to "open gyms."
How about flipping the narrative and saying that there is “no chance” to avoid interacting with the System? Own a bakery and then refuse to bake a cake for certain folks and end up before the Supreme Court. Go out to the woods – worked well for Randy Weaver and family, right? Where’s the “heroism” there?
With respect to supporting the System - is your bakery and gym going to avoid paying taxes? Will it have a "Whites only" policy? Or is a question of a relative decrease in support - you still support the System but a bit less than you would have done as a professional? Is this incremental decrease in support for the System, e.g., running a bakery instead of being a lawyer, compensating for the damage done to yourself with your self-inflicted downward mobility? Is it worth it? Is it worth not being in a position of influence because of some fantasy that your personal self-immolation attacks the basis of the System? Question - what does the "movement" need more of right now, supportive lawyers or supportive bakers? Asking simple questions like that illustrates how stupid and destructive Jeelvy's advice is.
And what’s the real lesson of the current persecution? That we have been following Der Tag fantasies for decades, and listening to idiots like Jeelvy, means that when “the shit hits the fan” we find out that the System apparatus is fully staffed by SJWs and treasonous sociopaths. There aren’t any (or any significant number of) White nationalists in the System infrastructure and there never have been, because all of you have been listening to the Type I Nutzis for decades and eschewing real political work and avoiding professional infiltration.
A fundamental problem is that Der Movement gets the broad perspective all wrong. They historically have supported worse is better accelerationism for activism and mainstreaming for electoral politics. I instead propose the opposite - rational activism and more radical politics. First, activism needs to be rational and prudent, eschewing Der Tag fantasies and seriously considering the possibility that Suvorov’s Law is more reflective of reality than is Worse is Better. Second, farstreaming has proved more effective in electoral politics than is mainstreaming. Orban moved to the right of Jobbik and is more popular than ever. Trump won in 2016 as a right-wing populist, but lost (in the final outcome) in 2020 when he moderated his positions. As Tucker Carlson has moved as far right as is possible while maintaining viability as a mainstream commentator, he has become more popular and more politically influential. Meanwhile, mainstreaming fails time and again. Der Movement’s advice, as usual, has been completely the opposite of what it should have been. We should be saner in our activism while pushing the envelope in electoral politics, while Der Movement preaches the opposite. Activists need to bolster their own well-being, success, and financial security, while “movement” “heroes” tell you to abandon the professions and bake cakes or brew beer. You can only help others after you help yourself, but Der Movement tells you to impoverish yourself while still funneling money in their direction. Don't listen to them. Listen to me instead. Your prosperity is good.
Labels: advice, behold the movement, Counter Currents, free riding, mainstreaming, strategy and tactics, Toward a New Movement
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