Nordicist Confessions Part II

More on this issue.

Following up on this, Nordicist Confessions writes:

It is my belief that Southern and Eastern Europeans, and non-whites more broadly, should allow Nordicists to create their own "safe spaces" (online and in the real world) in their efforts to build subracial camaraderie and preserve their kind. I also encourage them to form their own communities, similar to libertarians, in numerous places around the world. While legally they may not be permitted to establish Nordic-only societies, they can create a culture that is sufficiently hostile to non-Nordics that it will discourage non-Nordics from joining these communities. 

I essentially agree; I support freedom of association. One note of complaint is the conflation of “Southern and Eastern Europeans” and “non-whites more broadly” with respect to this issue. Let us consider how non-Whites approach association with Whites. No matter how much they proclaim how much they hate Whites, Coloreds constantly force themselves on the Whites they despise. Enforced racial integration is done to benefit non-Whites and when White Flight occurs, Coloreds (eventually) always follow. In contrast, Southern and Eastern Europeans were content to live in their urban “ethnic enclaves” (as Nordicists called them) and were forced out by the racial integration promoted by the Anglo-Jewish alliance. It was not that White ethnics were clamoring to live in Nordic areas but that they were desperate to escape from Blacks and Hispanics. Note that it are Somalis invading Maine and Minnesota, not Italian-Americans.  

The problem is we rarely see any serious efforts toward building such a community. Instead, what we find, in addition to the typical online whining, is these men (typically they are men) and/or their ideological kin (especially in the broader White Nationalist movement) breeding with non-Nordics, and very commonly with East Asian women (the list of such examples is long, as you have detailed previously). 

True.

So, contrary to the beliefs of Nordicists, it is not Southern Europeans and others stopping them from having their own ethnostate - it is "leaders" of their racial movement(s) pairing up with non-Nordic women, similar to how some Southern preachers condemn homosexuality while procuring the services of young male prostitutes on the downlow. Like with the black community, these people are their own worst enemy and should stop blaming others for their passivity, inaction, and blatant contradictions.

Equally true.

You have a point that Nordicists specifically are not seen with Asian women, at least openly, perhaps because they are even more controversial than the already-controversial White Nationalists and thus make a greater effort to remain anonymous. However, even you have noted how outraged they seem to be over some intra-European pairings while simultaneously mum - and at times even encouraging - racial-nationalists who are with or who have dated non-Nordic women, including East Asian women. 

That is absolutely true. Rosie and the Kids White Nationalism is in part a creation of Nordicists and those allied with Nordicists (i.e., HBD "race realists," ethnonationalists, Amnats, etc.).

The tell here as in poker is the *silence* with the latter. Why do we rarely see Nordicist men complaining about Nordic men breeding with East Asian women? Their silence implies there is more than just a desire for preservation going on. 

True.

My hypothesis stands: these are generally low-t men concerned about biological competition generally, not only from racial outsiders but also from Nordic alpha males who eat them alive and give no fucks. As Luimarco says: "On a daily, brah!"

That might be going too far; there are some legitimate preservationist concerns and not everything can be ascribed to sexual anxieties and testosterone levels; that is much too reductionist.

Yes, this is a part of it, and why non-Nordics should not join the White Nationalist movement: the movement is undergirded by these concerns, which the surface hostility actually serves to mask (unfortunately). 

It depends what you define as “the White Nationalist movement.” If what you mean is Der Movement, Inc. (a money-making enterprise), then I wholeheartedly agree and that is what I have been preaching. If what you mean is White nationalism in general, then I completely and vehemently disagree. Non-Nordic Europeans have just as much right to engage in pro-White activism as do Nordics, and White ethnics should not be driven out of racial activism (in its broad sense) just like they allowed themselves to be driven out of their old neighborhoods (and by similar forces – back then by the Anglo-Jewish alliance and today by HBDers and Nordicists with some connections of Jews and Jewish interests). As a pan-European racial nationalist, I see that, in the end, it is The West Against The Rest, and all Europeans need to stand together for their mutual interests

It would be rather noble for some Nordicists to openly address these points, but that would clearly show some vulnerability on their end. One solution to this problem, again, is to openly separate themselves as I mentioned above, but we see no serious efforts on their part with this (online whining does not count). Again, we also have to face a possibly bigger problem: their silence when Nordic men breed with non-Nordic and especially East Asian women. We are thus back to square one, despite this hypothetical concern we both have noted that appears to partly motivate them.

Well, yes, Sallis is blacklisted and Derbyshire is worshipped. So, I can’t argue with that’s written there.

But it makes no sense to enforce or abide by a multiparty agreement (in theory) unilaterally. If members of the EU and EEA (from all parts) are freely moving around, why impose a restriction on yourself not to move to other territories? Sure, you can restrain yourself as a matter of principle, but this would be of no practical significance *if other parties are ignoring your wishes that they remain in their place*. While Nordicists whine about non-Nordic people moving into their lands, they rarely condemn Nordics who settle into other parts of Europe (which may indicate they are oblivious to the actual politics and culture of Europe). With no offense intended, this is a principled stance that only low-t men would take.

You are completely misunderstanding what I wrote in my essay on this point. I’m not advocating some sort of “unilateral disarmament” with respect to intra-European migration. It would be enforced and would apply to everyone equally.  This is no “principled low-t stance.”  I object to people like John Morgan living in Hungary and the hypocrisy of Nords complaining about non-Nordic Europeans immigrating to Northern Europe while Nords colonize Spain, Italy, Southern France, Bulgaria, etc.

It's obvious at least anecdotally that such pairings are common between Nord men and Med women. However, once again, you don't see Nordicists condemning White Nationalists like Stefan Molyneux or Richard Spencer (whose wife is a quarter Georgian) who engage in these pairings. 

We need to be careful with terms like “Med” and who is included.  But I see your major point, which stands.

They also remain silent when White Nationalists pair up with East Asian and in some cases mestiza women (or in the case of Gavin McInnes, Native American women). They do not seem to protest when Michelle Malkin gets a standing ovation at an American Renaissance conference (did this actually happen?... It's what you wrote I believe). 

That’s what I was told.  See this.

Mrs. Malkin brought the audience to its feet…

Back to Nordicist Confessions:

Again, while concerns about genetic annihilation may be a factor, it's obviously a complex issue with perhaps multiple motives.

Yes.

Here's another big problem: Nordic European nations generally have no interest in taking in subracially Nordic Americans who cannot provide proof of direct lineage to these countries. This is not a problem caused by non-Nordics, but again Nordicists fail to address this issue. If the Nordic subrace is so important to preserve, then it stands to reason that these high-IQ nations would see the value in accepting Nordicist Americans. Generally, they don't. They don't see the value in accepting working-class Americans (which most Nordicists are) who throw online fits. This is reality, verified by actual EU and non-EU member laws posted online. Most American Nordicists can only spend 90 days max in Nordic countries. Then they will get kicked out. They may get upset with you for posting this, but you did not create this rule. I did not either.

OK.  But if some of these Americans are ethnic hybrids, then the nations have a right to reject them. Now, they may also reject ethnically pure Americans, but there are also cultural issues, I suppose. Americans in general are not very popular among significant portions of the European population (at least that is my impression).

If James Bowery, the author of the infamous essay arguing that Nordic men are prone to getting ass-raped in prison and are subliminally castrated by more dominant non-Nordic males, is the best among modern Nordicists, the movement has a serious problem. Again, and perhaps I will cover this in more detail in the future, there will always be issues with movements - or organizations generally - dominated by low-t men, whatever their IQs. Low-t men are not good leaders, and the ideas that flow from their heads are likely to be similarly eunuchoid and uninspiring (even embarrassing). You need to combine a high IQ with at least a moderate amount of testosterone to achieve the New Man you discussed and that would actually inspire "normie" men. Normie men want to be Luka Doncic (a Balkan Nordic with significant EEF ancestry), not James Bowery. Weak men are not respected.

I actually like some of the material Bowery has written (obviously not all of it, as I have made clear), and prison rape is a serious problem. I tend to doubt that it is a problem only for Nords however.

In summary, I think that non-Nordicist Nords and non-Nordic Europeans need to together build a New Movement. The problems in the Old Movement seem to me intractable. Thus, my objective is to deconstruct the Old Movement and promote the construction of the New Movement.