A thorough fisking.
Laugh at this leftist stupidity. Excerpts (emphasis added) and responses:
The alt right is irrelevant now, because its ideas are entirely mainstream.
Nonsense. The Alt Right is irrelevant now because it was an utter (and entirely predictable) failure, which left the “movement” worse off than before. What’s “entirely mainstream” is BLM and Antifa. Pro-White activism is even more marginalized than before.
“Some women are simply aroused by the image of a penis.”
Some men in the Alt Right are as well, apparently. Beware at the urinal!
In this particular episode, Spencer and his nameless interlocutor got into an argument about whether or not women enjoy “dick pics.” Spencer argued that they do not because of the innately reclusive nature of female sexuality. The cohost disagreed vehemently, saying that Richard may not understand because it is a “generational” thing.
Such is the content of The Richard Spencer Show, which launched in 2018.
That is what I term “Beavis-and-Butthead White nationalism” and encapsulates what the Alt Right was really about.
It isn’t the white supremacist’s first podcast-style talk program. Spencer began Vanguard Radio back in 2010, around the same time he launched AlternativeRight.com. But now that his notoriety has grown and he has pissed off all of his former cohosts, his show now boasts only his name, his face, and an anonymous cohost, and is livestreamed over the course of hours. On another episode published within the last year, he responded to allegations from his ex-wife that he physically and verbally abused her (she had documentary evidence), and his cohost commented on how much more attractive he thought Spencer’s new girlfriend was than his former wife.
Why should anyone be surprised by any of that? What else was the Alt Right ever about? It was an asinine, insipid, moronic, iteration of “movement” stupidity, putting a leering “youth culture” face on tired, fossilized “movement” dogma.
In earlier incarnations of his podcast persona, Spencer would wax pseudo-philosophically, trying to resurrect the German Conservative Revolution, praising the European New Right of the late 1960s, cherry-picking from Heidegger and Nietzsche. He would interview the fascist celebrities he was hoping to cultivate into a powerful milieu: Jack Donovan, Tomislav Sunić, Greg Johnson, Matt Heimbach, and even Pat Buchanan. They would talk about the future, their dreams, how they saw the world, where they came from, and where they were going.
Sunic is a good guy, but the rest of them? Two homosexuals, the hero of a trailer park cuckoldry triangle, and an elderly paleoconservative who time has passed by.
Now Spencer is defending himself against his abused ex-wife and debating dick pics.
The Peter Principle. Spencer rose to the level of his incompetence (not too far) and has slipped back into “defending himself against his abused ex-wife and debating dick pics.”
In early November, far-right troll Milo Yiannopoulos released an audio recording from 2017 on YouTube, in which Spencer can be heard spewing racist bile in the aftermath of the deadly Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville. “Little fucking kikes. They get ruled by people like me. Little fucking octaroons. My ancestors fucking enslaved those little pieces of fucking shit,” Spencer raged. “Those pieces of shit get ruled by people like me. They look up and see a face like mine looking down at them.” It’s hardly headline news for anyone aware of Spencer and his ilk—Hold the presses! Neo-Nazi is a racist!—yet, until a few months ago, mainstream news networks like CNN continued to invite Spencer on as a guest.
What about all the “elder statesman” of the American Far Right who jumped on the Alt Right bandwagon and who enabled Spencer up until the point that Hailgate offended Jewish moneybags? Let’s take a look at those heroes as well. And as regards CNN – should we surprised that an anti-White outfit like that would promote Spencer as a spokesman for the Far Right?
THEY FELL HARD
Predicted here by early 2017 at the latest.
When his trademarked Alt-Right movement went off the rails, losing all forward momentum and ideological consistency…
What was the “ideological constituency?” Pepe? People drinking gallons of milk while screaming “Kek?” What? Juvenile podcasts? Writing “Arthur Kemp was right” with respect to a published paper that was in fact a perfect refutation of Kemp? What?
…there was nothing he could do but alternate between enraged fist pounding and nihilistic humor.
That’s what it ALWAYS was, you idiot.
Spencer had creeped around the edges of the white nationalist movement when he was a graduate student studying European intellectual history at Duke University. He became an assistant arts editor at the American Conservative in 2008 after then-editor Scott McConnell liked a presentation he gave defending the Duke lacrosse players accused of sexually assaulting a black sex worker. McConnell eventually suggested that Spencer would be a better fit at Taki’s Magazine, the far-right paleoconservative outlet resembling the early Breitbart.com—though with fancier words and a sleeker typeface. He was meeting new people, like far-right philosophy professor Paul Gottfried, paleocon-turned-white-identitarian Sam Francis, “human biodiversity” proponent Steve Sailer, as well as open white nationalists, romanticist pagans, and “traditionalists.”…Although the name originated with Gottfried, Spencer then decided to call his cadre the Alternative Right and built a website (AlternativeRight.com, which went offline in 2014) to bring them all together to talk.
Reading between the lines of the above – the “Anglo” “old boys network”(that includes on its periphery some "high IQ Jews") pushed Spencer forward and upward, propelled by elder co-ethnics grooming the next generation of (failed) affirmative action leaders.
What’s ironic is that no matter how much Spencer and Johnson may dislike each other, they have a fundamental “movement” trajectory in common. Both are archetypical affirmative action cases, both are stereotypical Quota Queens. Both rapidly rose within the “movement,” pushed up by elder co-ethnics, when neither of them demonstrated the requisite merit or competence to justify their rapid rise.
That is when the Alt Right 2.0 came together; this time, bloggers and podcasters who had their own loose affinities gathered in message-board subcultures like the Manosphere and Neoreaction, and there began to memeify the Alternative Right’s talking points.
Talking points: Pepe, Kek, drinking milk, drunken podcasts, juvenile sniggering, etc.
Neoreaction birthed the “cuckservative” meme, which criticized conservative politicians who argued for anything less than border militarization.
No, it justifiably criticized “conservative” politicians who, only a few decades earlier, would be considered far-left radicals and are, today, virtually indistinguishable from liberal Democrats in all issues other than “capital gains tax cuts.”
The Alt Right 2.0 used the banner and hashtag #AltRight to describe themselves. They were not quite as academic as the alt-right’s first iteration, their ideas less formed.
What ideas?
Their praxis was little more than trolling.
Precisely.
Their turn toward activism was awkward, not the least because most of the key figures, like Mike Enoch, Greg Johnson, and Eli Mosley, were clueless as to how organizing works.
The problem is having failures like that as “key figures.”
Planned events usually amounted to purposeless flash mobs, high-profile public speeches marked by violence…
Err, you mendacious scum, how are they responsible for the fact that leftists that you support are intolerant violent thugs, domestic terrorists who break up legal gatherings? Gee…”civil rights" marches of the 1960s sometimes ended with violence, so….
The Alt Right is a movement separate from its creator, but Richard Spencer is still its soul. The movement was crafted in his image and around his ideas. The Alt Right is, in large part, just a fascist aesthetics: collared shirts, swooped hair, academic rhetoric, millennial cultural tropes, and Internet meanness.
Exactly. I agree. What does it say about the “movement’s” elder statesmen that they eagerly jumped on the Alt Right bandwagon? Only Sallis and Strom were properly skeptical. All the rest – poor judgment conformist weaklings.
Spencer publicly tried to fashion himself as an intellectual aristocrat. He mimicked the Northeastern parlor accent of his white supremacist forerunner, Jared Taylor…
That is defamation. Taylor is not a “white supremacist.” If I recall correctly, he identified Amren with “yellow supremacy" as well as with "white advocacy."
Spencer admired the figure of the Troll, suggesting at NPI conferences that since the Troll was the soul of the Internet, maybe the Alt Right was the soul of the Troll.
And now you wonder why the Alt Right collapsed. What – with such a firm ideological core, why were any of us ever skeptical?
He used to publish books of pseudo-academic racist prose lamenting the decline of the white race, but now he was holding ever-shrinking press events, continually shut down by the anti-fascist opposition.
This turd is exactly like Roger Griffin. That legal meetings by the Right are “continually shut down” by violent leftist thugs is submitted as evidence as flaws of the Right. Let’s turn that around and cite Nazi persecution of Jews as evidence of the flaws of the latter.
And then there was the alcohol. He usually drank a stiff bourbon to complement his brand as a rich American, nostalgic for the South.
According to Pilleater, it wasn’t only alcohol.
His rampant public racism made him an easier target to organize around for antifascists…
Spencer is White, these days apparently the only criterion to be “easier target to organize around for antifascists…”
Spencer was increasingly incapable of playing the role of both racist conference speaker and shock jock. The former image of the Alt Right and its paper-thin veil of refinement was replaced by a movement more openly rabid and raging, and more at home with the white nationalist movement at large.
Exactly the opposite. The Alt Right was always “more openly rabid and raging” than “the white nationalist movement at large.”
Heather Heyer was murdered…
More accurate: Fat land whale Heyer, participating in a violent suppression of the free speech of others, died while a rightist attempted to escape in his car from being attacked by a weapon-wielding violent crowd.
….and the Alt Right devolved into infighting, private message boards, and in-jokes.
It didn’t “devolve” into “infighting, private message boards, and in-jokes” – that was always its core.
They were into racist paganism, esoteric German philosophers, discredited race science…
Real racial science is not “discredited.” Having leftist academics critique truth does not make the truth any less true.
The Alt Right’s methodology is informed by the European New Right’s conception of meta-politics, the cultural influences that form pre-political ideas, identities, and values. By this logic, if you can affect what people think of themselves and about right and wrong, you can change political reality down the line. For several years, white nationalism was in search of effective meta-politics, since practical politics— going out in the streets or running candidates—was off the table.
Hey! I thought we lived in a “White supremacist society” in which “White supremacy” and “White privilege” were inherent. So why is pro-White politics “off the table?”
“We like to assume that the arc of history will bend inexorably toward justice, but this is wishful thinking,” writes Andrew Marantz in his book Antisocial, on the Alt Right’s growth via social media. “The arc of history bends the way people bend it. In the early years of the twenty-first century, the internet was full of nihilists and masculinists and ironic neo-Nazis and nonironic neo-Nazis, all working to bend the arc of history in some extremely disturbing directions.”
Wishful thinking is also manifest in arrogant leftists believing that their destructive worldview – that resulted in more death and suffering than any other in human history – is defined by “justice.”
This is why deplatforming, meaning removing certain figures and groups from the mass platforms that they share with the rest of us, was a death sentence for key players in the Alt Right.
So…how is the deplatforming of the Alt Right – with the radical Left still enjoying full access to those mass platforms – consistent with the “mainstreaming” of Alt Right views and the existence of a “White supremacist” society? More to the point – how is rightist deplatforming evidence of rightist failure, rather than as evidence of a leftist failure to fairly contest the Right in the marketplace of ideas?
Outside of the social media and Web 2.0 framework they lost the ability to stay in the conversation, their “hot takes” returned to the cooler world of private mailing lists and subscription newsletters. The Alt Right are, once again, a fringe white nationalist movement. It is now difficult for the uninitiated to simply stumble across the Alt Right while scrolling. Nothing could make them more insular.
How are they to blame for the censorship by woke capital?
See, for example, the trajectory of the Daily Shoah. It was once the largest podcast in the Alt Right scene, so large, in fact, that it spurred an entire podcast network with dozens of shows, a lively message board, and enough paid subscribers that a couple of hosts were full time employees. Their hosts and guests used the platform to freely wax genocidal; cohost Jayoh de le Ray argued, for example, that all black people should be exterminated. Now, the Daily Shoah is all but invisible. They have been veritably kicked off of the web, podcasts, and blog-hosting platforms like iTunes, Twitter, and Facebook. You can’t find them in a Google search, they are absent from almost all social media, and the listener has to have already been acquainted with the content before they can join in on their conversation. They used to speak both to the converted and to new recruits, now it is only the existing echo chamber that tunes in for their twice weekly, three-hour invective. They have returned to where they started, and they weren’t prepared for that.
Der Movement is never prepared for anything.
Some of these fascist media figures had given up their old lives completely, banking on the idea that the Alt Right would become established enough to stop being a professional liability. The Daily Shoah’s cohost Mike Enoch even divorced his Jewish wife and left behind a six-figure career as a computer programmer to live in a trailer in upstate New York. It was a bad bet: his subscriber list continues to shrink, and fewer and fewer people tune in to hear his “hate facts.” Andrew Anglin of the Daily Stormer now lives a life on the run, escaping the lawsuits his harassment provoked.
I’m no fan of Anglin, but that’s blaming the victim.
The entire media empire of the Alt Right is, with few exceptions, desolate and underattended. The website AltRight.com hasn’t added new content in over a year; the work of painstaking brand development was seemingly for nothing.
All predicted here, years ago.
When the Alternative Right, with all of its intellectual posturing, turned out to be the Alt Right, just neo-Nazism in a dinner jacket (as so many of us had long pointed out), the movement lost its earlier mystique, and with it much of its access to new converts.
The Alt Right was Nutzism in a drunken podcast, and if it has lost “access” that is due to censorship and violent leftist thuggery.
And then there is Richard Spencer.
His conferences have been canceled… now he is lucky to keep a social media account up…
Again, the Roger Griffin School of logic. If the System, working hand-in-glove with leftist thugs, censors and deplatforms the Right, then the Right are just a bunch of losers. By that logic, the Left should also mock the Jewish “losers” persecuted by the Nazis.
The story of Spencer is, in a clichéd sense, the story of American celebrity. White liberal media loved (to hate) him because white supremacy was an oddity, not a threat.
So you admit that “white supremacy” is not a threat. Thank you.
His brand of ethnic cleansing was discussed as if it was rowdy, every apology was made for his rhetoric, and the microphones were always open. And this apologist approach made sense: how could Spencer’s rhetoric be differentiated when the Republican Party (GOP) was advocating a ban on immigration from primarily Muslim countries?
Trump advocated that, not the GOP. The GOP, along with the other wing of America’s one party system, the Democrats, have supported increased Muslim immigration after 9/11.
Spencer wanted an intellectual movement.
He had a funny way of showing it, then. Admiring the Troll?
Alt Right mainstay and neo-Nazi Greg Johnson once said, “Alt Right means white nationalism or it means nothing.”
Proving Johnson is a horribly destructive force in the “movement.”
About a year ago I was working on an essay about a moment of decline in the Alt Right when an editor asked me how, since the Republican Party has moved so far right, it can make sense to talk about the Alt Right’s failure.
Yeah, under Trump, the GOP has moved to the immigration position held by that Nazi lunatic Dwight Eisenhower, while Trump spends his political capital on pro-Black “criminal justice reform,” a radically pro-Israel foreign policy, while having his DOJ persecute his own supporters. And the GOP establishment is just itching to get back to the good old days of unabashed neo-Marxist neoconservatism.
The Alt Right leaders and followers wanted to make space for their positions in the culture, and they did.
Which we can see with the triumph of BLM and the descent of America into a neo-puritan hysterical far-left spasm of anti-Whiteness.
But the mainstreaming of white supremacist politics…
Delusion. What has become mainstreamed is BLM and Antifa.
A decline of the Alt Right is not a decline in the threat of fascism, in fact, it could simply be momentary projection of what is to come.
What is to come – BLM and Antifa burning down American cities (with the approval of the establishment) and the assassination of White rightists in the streets (ditto).
But of greater concern still is the way white nationalism informs and will inform the state…
Gee, it has to wait in line for that, behind BLM and Antifa.
The Alt Right gave the state extra license to resort to racist violence as a solution to its problems…
Huh? The only “racist violence” is of BLM and Antifa against Whites.
…and just as in fascist movements past the state found the relationship with extra-state groups synergistic.
Relationship between the state and extra-state groups – like the present synergistic relationship between the System and BLM/Antifa.
This means struggle cannot silo itself between issues and targets, but has to grow to confront the expanding network of white violence.
As Blacks and their allies burn down America, we’ll talk about non-existent “white violence.”
Richard Spencer definitely got punched…
The only actual manifestation of White violence.
…but he left his fingerprints on the world that rejected him.
He left his fingerprints on a ruined “movement,” no doubt.
There is a certain impetus from people writing about the far-right to extend its reach beyond its boundaries. Perhaps this comes from having your head in that world too much, and therefore it seems more significant than it is. Is the world racist because of the Alt Right, or is the Alt Right possible because the world is racist?
The only “racism” in the world is against Whites – the only people not allowed to have their own homelands, the only people not allowed to organize in defense of group interests, the only people whose own governments criminalize racial self-defense.
…it is because their movements are the externalization of a social consciousness that runs through every distinct element, every building, and every institution in Western life.
You know, all the institutions of Western life that bring mass alien immigration and White displacement, criminalization of White dissent, deplatforming of White dissidents, etc.
The Alt Right was able to identify the burgeoning “white identity” politics and give it a name, a language, to bridge the gap between the reality of white supremacy…
Reality? We live in a state in which BLM is praised by politicians, funded by woke capital, while the allegedly “mainstreamed” “fascists” are censored, deplatformed, and attacked in the streets with impunity. The anti-White Left has been allowed to engage in open insurrection, open domestic terrorism, for months now, burning down American cities, with no charges pressed against anyone, while Trump's DOJ persecutes his own supporters. Whites are not allowed to express an identity or defend their group interests, while Blacks run wild and everyone smiles benignly. Racial groups like MENA stridently press the government to be removed from the “White” category on the census – the “flight from White” manifests everywhere. If this is “White supremacy” I shudder to think what “equality” will bring.
…and the mythology and playbook of white nationalism.
Ad hominem.
The fingerprints that Spencer left on the world are now part of the world.
As a source of laughter, yes. Otherwise, no.
On November 12, 2019, Michael Edison Hayden released a story through the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Hatewatch project chronicling the role that White House senior policy adviser Stephen Miller had on influencing far-right media coverage of issues like immigration, particularly at Breitbart.
Miller has accomplished absolutely zero at the Trump administration. Kushner on the other hand…
Leaked emails show that he was propping up a number of canards about immigrant crime and violence…
“Canards” being another word for “facts.”
…particularly using Alt Right favorites American Renaissance, known for its race and IQ banter…
“Banter?” Why does the Left always use snide asides rather than engaging on the issues?
…and the anti-immigration website VDare, as sources. In discussions it was clear that Miller’s public persona is the tip of the iceberg, and below the surface lies the murky world of the Alt Right, mixed together pseudo-science…
HBD is pseudoscience, but real racial science is not. The worst pseudoscience is the race denial from the Left.
…white replacement conspiracy theories…
White replacement is certainly a conspiracy, but it is not a theory; it is a reality.
…and panicked white anxiety about slipping hegemony.
So you admit Whites are in decline and exhibit “slipping hegemony?”
Of course Stephen Miller is a white nationalist.
He’s not. He’s a paleoconservative Jew.
Fascists have certainly had an effect on the organs of power, but only in the way that white nationalism has been normalized as a political identity, which gives capital the ability to harness the violent energies generated by our era of mass crisis.
Crazed delusion. “Capital” is 100% on the side of the author of this piece. It is “Capital” that supports BLM and Antifa, while deplatforming and censoring the Right.
White supremacy is the method by which capital splits the working class and uses the crisis it created to its advantage rather than its detriment.
If you replace “White” by “Colored” maybe that would be true.
The Alt Right is then a part of that process, a useful vanguard…
Yes, it I such a “useful vanguard” that it has been censored and deplatformed, and “Capital” works hand-in-glove with Antifa to violently suppress the Right. That’s why the writing of this author is widely available, while that of the Right is being censored and deplatformed.
…the symptom rather than the disease. What we can say with certainty about the symbiosis between systemic and insurgent white supremacy is that you cannot unseat one without confronting the other.
As both do not exist, you don’t need to worry about “unseating” them. Worry more about your own worrisome propensity for delusion.
Labels: affirmative action in action, Alt-Right, fisking, Greg Johnson, move, movement, movement's ethnic affirmative action program, Old Movement, Spencer
