Rodney Martin on White Nationalism

Really about Der Movement, not about "White nationalism."

The following is an anti-"movement" post I wrote a while back and that has been waiting in the publishing queue, so let's get it out today.

I would like to examine Rodney Martin’s very interesting essay on White nationalism. You should read the whole thing.

The most fundamental problem with this essay is that Martin conflates Der Movement with White nationalism. This is logically incorrect, as the former is just one vehicle for actualizing the latter. Only if you believe that White nationalism must absolutely and inevitably lead to a disaster such as Der Movement would such an equivalence hold.  I do not believe that to be true.

In any case, excerpts (emphasis added):

…blacks...are winning. The internet tough guys who bark on the internet for our “Culture and Values” are not. When approached by CNN and asked if he stood by his internet based bravado, Kyle Rodgers, the loud mouth internet mouthpiece of the CoCC, (Council of Conservative Citizens) who famously said “never back down to the left wing media, hid behind his door like the preverbal High School nerd running from the Jocks and screamed at the CNN crew to go talk to his big mack daddy Jared ( Jews are White) Taylor. http://www.cnn.com/…/council-of-conservative-citizens-griff…. This is the reality of White Nationalism, tough online, cowards in real life and almost always refusing to own their positions when confronted in person.

They are cowards online as well, refusing to debate competent opponents, or moderate their blog comments so as to allow criticism, even after openly declaring themselves eager and ready for “debate.”

Contrast the self-described White Nationalist “E-Activist” to Black, Latino, Jewish, and any other Leftist activist . Black activists took to the streets and pushed their interests and agenda, self-described “White Nationalists” continued their online, anonymous bravado via various websites, chief among these is Stormfront AKA Stormdrain led by Don Black who uses Oral Roberts fundraising tactics, demanding $7K per month from low information self-described “White Nationalists” for the honor of “blogging about the “problem”. This shtick has enabled Black to live in comfort in Palm Beach, Florida ( a Jew dominated City) while sending his son Derek, his former right hand man to a private liberal college which resulted in young Derek bowing before Mark Potok and the SPLC and no doubt delivering Stormfront user data to Potok and Morris Dees.

I have always unfavorably compared the White Right to the Coloreds and to the Left.  Of course, Martin should acknowledge that these others have the tacit and sometimes open support of the System.

When Anglin is not bashing White women as “whores”, “sluts”, and “worse than Jews”, he has called for age of consent laws to be lowered to age 14 so prearranged marriages between girls and 30 and 40 year-old men could be set up by his Pedo dream State. Perhaps Anglin’s insecurities regarding White women has more to do with his own failures and insecurities with the opposite sex. There is something wrong when a 31 year old male who has only ever expressed desire for underage girls of Africa and the Philippines making obsessive attacks on OUR women. Of course Anglin who has appointed himself the world’s hardest hardcore Nazi, seems to work very hard remaining out of certain jurisdictions, not indicating where he resides, and for nearly the last 2 years has attempted to live off donations, i.e. “Movement Welfare”. For a “Movement” that prides itself as “Racists” or “Racialists”, many at “Daily Stoner are all too willing to overlook Anglin’s fetish for underage Asian and Black females and the fact that at age 31, Anglin has never been with a White Woman, has no White children, and has actually attacked marriage while patronizing brothels in Eastern Europe with the publisher of a web site Anglin has borrowed material from and reposts on Daily Stormer. Cut & Paste and claiming 14 hour work days is the actual standard of practice at “Daily Stoner”, symbolism over substance is the hallmark of White Nationalism while Blacks, Latinos, Jews, and others engage in real activism and advance a real Agenda based on substance, White Nationalists engage in online circle jerks that make the porn industry blush.

According to Johnson, who respects Anglin, Mr. Anglin is one of the “voices of WN 3.0.”

The fundamental difference between “White Nationalism” and activists of Leftist Organizations such as the NAACP, LaRaza, MeCha, ADL, et. al, is simple, the Leftists are not dominated by, identified by and exists solely by websites and anonymity. Nor are they dominated by low information, mentally defective hobbyists who see conspiracies around every corner who still live at home with mommy and daddy at advanced ages, have not been in a real relationships with the opposite sex, have no children, lack any semblance of an education, lack real jobs, careers, and professional development and go so far a to viciously attack those who work in the Struggle who bring these essential tools to the motionless” Movement based on nothing more than jealously, envy and self-loathing. While White Nationalists are high-fiving Dylaan Roof for murdering old women in a Church, pardon me while I get ill, the Leftists are advancing their agenda by leaps and bounds.

Fair enough.

It is common to hear low life White Nationalist trouser stains post long diatribes attacking people who have done something with their life/lives as “obviously being an “Agent” or a “Jew” or some other nonsense because we cannot have talent and ability in the motionless Movement. Then these self-appointed experts spend hours (because they have no life) on their favorite groupie web site or podcast opining on subjects they have absolutely no real or practical experience, education, or life experience.

Indeed. Included in this are folks like Borat Jeelvy preaching downward mobility to young White men, and he and the rest of the Millennial crew label IRL work as being the linked to “Boomers.” To be fair, twenty years ago you had Boomer and Gen X “activists” also preaching dropout because “the entire System is going to collapse within five years, no doubt about it.” Sound familiar?

Most laughable is the volume of posts on White Nationalist web sites on “marriage” “relationships”, “and “women” posted by men who blame everything and everyone but themselves for their failures in life.

It’s always great when homosexuals do the same. A lot of expertise there.

In a real and successful political movements the cream rises while the pond scum sinks, this has not been the case in White Nationalism. In fact the pond scum has drowned out the crème and driven out many valuable assets, including families, which provide the next generation.

I have often talked about Gresham’s law in Der Movement, and the need to weed out defectives or else the defectives would alienate all the sane and rational people. Instead, we have promoted “chips and genetic modifiers in vaccines and house flies exterminated by ‘bullets flying everywhere.”  Good job!

Too often the pond scum of the motionless Movement are all too willing to sacrifice future growth, including generational growth all so they can be the biggest turd in the toilet, i.e. so they can self-confer some grand title in a group of 3 or 4. Groups like RaRaza, MeCha, NAACP, and ADL have understood the key to success is discipline, advancing their agenda to the next generation, and most importantly completely absent in these organizations is the fragmentation, character issues and cannibalism based on personality tiffs. These Organizations message has been consistent, disciplined and above all, they are led by the best and the brightest of their respective Organizations and never allow pond scum in the membership to run off their assets. Too many quality people, especially families have walked away NOT because they grew tired of harassment by the ADL and SPLC, but because they burned out on the internal drama and vicious attacks from anonymous White Nationalist “E-Activists”, who are often so self-loathing and disappointed with their own failures in life, that they attack others who have been successful because of hard work, education, discipline, and character.

"They" - Johnson, Jeelvy, et al.  Also note that Martin recognizes something that I have often written about - ironically, the Left, which supports affirmative action, has organizations run by their "best and brightest." Now, Martin doesn't talk about Der Movement's ethnic affirmative action, but he does note that the "motionless Movement" is led by "pond scum."

Finally, the greatest weakness and the most glaring reason why “White Nationalism” fails, is a large number, most likely 75 percent, of those who self-identify as “White Nationalists” and frequent the various White Nationalist web sites do so as an internet based hobby only and really do not hold White Nationalist beliefs as core principles that guide their life.

Certainly. Beavis-and-Butthead drunken Alt Right podcasts, “Irony bros,” Millennial jackasses, people using Der Movement for “gay pickups,” and all the rest.  The big tent!

These self-described “hard core” “Nazis”, “Racialists”, “Racists”, “Identists”, etc, when pushed on solid racial ideological issues always retreat to making exceptions for their favorite mixed race or Non White friend or family member or even bed mate.

All too true.

In many cases they are all too willing to accept Jews and Homosexuals…

Mostly the latter.

….as “contributors to the Cause”, just attend AmRen or the American Freedom Party conflabs, it will not be too difficult to trip over a Jew and land in the lap of a Homosexual…

Pilleater beware!

…while hearing speakers opine at the state of “White Culture” and “White Civilization”. Those speakers generally have Non White spouses…

Hello, Derb!

…or same sex spouses which make these so called “Pro-White”, “Traditionalist”, and “Nationalist” gatherings even more hypocritical.

Hypocrisy in Der Movement?  Say it Aint so!

American “White Nationalism” because of its hobby based nature is nothing more than a hodgepodge of various groups with a Baskin-Robbins like ideologies, i.e. 31 flavors, SOMETHING to suit everyone.

The big tent!

This is so typically weak it provides no real viable alternative to the current political system. But then again, White Nationalists are not really serious about it to begin with.

True.

White Nationalism is in reality an internet based hobby. While some, such as David Duke and Don Black make a decent living…

Then we have folks who earn $180,000 in a year…more than a “decent living.”  Why doesn’t Martin mention them?  I sure will, in future posts.

Libertarianism: a vast majority of self-described White Nationalists are in reality “Libertarians”, despite their professed support for National Socialism.

Der Alt Right!  WN 2.0!

They are the first to invoke “Liberty”, “Freedom”, and “Individualism”, which are the 3 primary ingredients that have led to the destruction of White Western Christian Civilization on the North American Continent.

It’s just the flu, bro!  Hail Shelly Luther!

Character: simply put, a huge majority of self-described White Nationalists lack the character, discipline, and honor to put a real Movement above themselves and are in reality web site and podcast Groupies rather than political or ideological soldiers.

Hello ,Greg Johnson.

Symbolism or Substance: White Nationalists are like cats and the laser light. White Nationalists fall in love like a teenage girl for every new face, and declare their allegiance to the new “fuhrer”, that says something catchy, only to be disappointed when they learn he is saying something different to different people, has no real ideological core, likes Jews, blah, blah, blah.

Trump?  Reagan?  Putin? Paul?

This has plagued White Nationalism for years as it is common to hear White Nationalists say, “all we need is THE LEADER”. Well, White Nationalism has LOTS of Leaders, what it lacks is ideas and a broad based Ideology. Groups like the ADL, LaRaza, MeCha: NAACP, DO have ideas and are committed to an ideology and are successful regardless of who is in charge. White Nationalism fails to understand this ON PURPOSE because unlike MeCha, La Raza, the ADL, NAACP, et al, White Nationalism is like a video game, it is fantasy, an escape, a HOBBY. There is NO real desire to do what is discussed.

True.

Compromised: Too many self-described White Nationalists, even those who profess to be “hardcore” are compromised or are all too willing to compromise on the Race issue. Jared Taylor and his AmRen Jew Crew takes the position “Jews are White”…

They’re HuWhhhiittteee….

…The National Youth Front, a brainchild of the American Freedom Party, itself Jew compromised, started off led by a leader married to a Non White who proudly supported Israel. Its current “Leader” is a self-proclaimed “anti-supremacist” and hypnotist who uses Hollywood imagery as examples of White Ancestors. 

What else is new?

While Marxist Organizations use the internet as an effective tool to marshal resources, communicate and to move resources from one ground operation to another, White Nationalists use it to engage in the most depraved cannibalism which in the end denies the motionless Movement the essential tools in the toolbox to grow and develop from a Struggle into a Movement.

E.g.,the Greg Johnson feuds.

The White Nationalist Movement is dominated by individuals who by any standard should be as far away as possible from any alternative political revolutionary struggle and most certainly no mainstream political movement would tolerate the absolute crap that is seen in the motionless White Nationalist Movement.

So, Martin are I are in absolute agreement here.  He doesn’t mention the affirmative action policy though.

Because of the complete lack of self-policing and the complete absence of character, discipline, and honor, White Nationalism allows any mentally defective low life with a PC and internet connectivity to declare themselves some sort of “Supreme Chancellor” by night from the Imperial HQ of their Momma’s basement, as is the case with many well-known personalities in the motionless Movement, and go on rampages in the Superman Underoos attacking people who come into the motionless Movement with real talent, abilities and experience that is desperately needed.

Those “people who come into the motionless Movement with real talent, abilities and experience that is desperately needed” are “insane” and “indecent.” And of the wrong ethnic background.

In almost every case the talent leaves because people with real lives, i.e. families, careers, etc, have little time for this nonsense and the motionless Movement is left as it always has been, the same little sewer dominated by the same little turds who think they are big fish in the small pond.

True.

To all of this I say NO THANKS. I have a wife and 5 children and have better things to do.

Gresham’s law in action.

Apart from the caveat in the beginning, I agree with ~95% of what Martin writes here. Well, I also disagree with the general pro-White female attitude - that's included in the ~5% of difference.  Those are relatively minor points.

I congratulate him for this fine essay, and for the understanding underlying it. Job well done!

Der Father’s Day in Der News

Happy Father’s Day for all readers for whom it applies.

This piece by Strom is excellent, except for one thing – the absolute nonsense about how similar “Persian” Iranians are to Europeans, more similar than are Jews, Strom asserts. That is simply not true, population genetics says otherwise, no matter what Der Movement claims. I don’t like Jews any more than Strom does, but I refuse to lie about science and objective facts just to make some political points. The problem with associating racial preservationist ideology with lies is that once the lies are identified and refuted, the enemies of racial preservationism will use that refutation to attempt to delegitimize preservationism.

We can very well favorably contrast Iranians with Jews without inventing incorrect assertions about genetic kinship and genetic distance.  After all, the Ashkenazi genepool is significantly European and the non-European elements are more similar to Europeans than are Iranians. The primary issue with Jews is more their selected behavioral traits (e.g., extreme ethnocentrism, neuroticism, and deviousness) coupled to a religious-cultural tradition of supremacism, dual morality, and hostility toward outsiders, particularly Europeans.

But, that’s a side issue. The main thrust of Strom’s work this week is sound.  It also captures much of the problem with HBD.  So, Jews have a high, high IQ.  Given all the things Strom mentioned, is that high IQ ultimately a good thing for other peoples?  Basically, the Jews are like high-IQ Roma – the same attitudes about outsiders and the urge to exploit the “other” but instead of picking people’s pockets, they are picking people’s nations. Whither IQ?

No fan of Milo, here, but his article is informative.

Joan of Arc, Joan of Arc, my e-thot for a Joan of Arc.

Now, who was it who was:

1. Opposed to the “big tent” with the Alt Lite?

2. Opposed to yeastbucket grifters infiltrating Der Movement?

I’ll give you a hint.  

Note the common themes between Alt Lite failures and that of Der Movement – the lack of judgment demonstrated by tolerating people who should be eschewed, merely because those people are of some immediate utility. A lack of patience goes along with this lack of prudence, since immediate convenience and reckless plowing ahead is valued over slow, steady, and safe progress.

The heir apparent to Polignano:

Maybe, just maybe, some people just placed too much trust and hope in a silly girl in her early twenties, who happened to have hundreds of thousands of followers but not a clue about politics… Let’s at least be open to that possibility.

Does “some people” include Der Cool Fish?

Peak Tin Cupism.  The individual’s reasoning is sound up to the point in which we consider that people can come and go in Der Movement as well as do organizations. Imagine if someone, years ago, had left money in their will to Derek Black, as an up-and-coming racialist activist.  A lot of spinning in the grave would now be going on.  The general advice in the main article is reasonably sound.

Cool Fishes and Genetic Manipulations

In der news.

Listen to this. 

First, the deplatforming.  Obviously, despite my disagreements with Counter-Currents and  other "movement" factions, I oppose their deplatforming. I don’t begrudge these types to earn a living from their activism either.  My point is, and remains, that these types should EARN their money, they should EARN their positions of leadership, and they should be held ACCOUNTABLE by their donors and the rank-and-file in general.  It is also obvious from reading my blog that I do not believe they are earning the money they get, nor do I believe that they are being held accountable.  On the other hand, if you have to give money to the tin cuppers, better to give to Counter-Currents than to give to VDARE so that Brimelow and Derbyshire can sit comfortably on lawn chairs in the leafy suburbs.

Greg is correct with his weeds analogy, the natural selection process leading to tougher far-rightists.  Of course, Counter-Currents is not the only groupuscule that has been surviving over the years. One wonders though if the System is also undergoing selection – my Red Queen analogy – and with their greater resources they may be victorious.

Lauren does good work.  Extraordinarily good work.  Laughter at my end.

Milo – who enabled him?  Who ever took him seriously? Wasn’t Milo part of the “big tent” WN 2.0 that some people promoted?  Greg, if the Alt Lite is controlled opposition and all no good, then why were you shilling for a “big tent” including the Alt Lite several years ago? You were for an alliance with the types of people you now denounce; I was against it. Who was right? Do we really need to answer that?

Greg is a “cool fish”- which is why he hysterically censors his blog and bans people when they disagree with him.  Frodi says you have to talk to people you disagree with.  Very well. Frodi, meet Greg Johnson, the cool cool fish.

The discussion about apostates was reasonable and similar to things I wrote in the past. See this about Derek Black. Note that I connect the Black case the “movement’s” affirmative action policy, the latter a topic one is not going to ever see honestly discussed at Counter-Currents.

Frodi is correct that people who are authentic WNs never really go back.  They may drop out of disgust, but they do not become apostates.  

People who live in Appalachia are “losers,” Greg?  Not everyone can live a blue state lifestyle off of “D’Nations.”  Who knows?  Maybe some of the people sending you the money you live on are types you would label as “losers.” Or does giving you money suddenly make them into “winners?’’  

I agree with Greg that those who use the term “White supremacists” to describe White nationalists should be held accountable for it.

New system for genetic manipulation.

Conventional CRISPR-Cas systems maintain genomic integrity by leveraging guide RNAs for the nuclease-dependent degradation of mobile genetic elements, including plasmids and viruses. Here we describe a remarkable inversion of this paradigm, in which bacterial Tn7-like transposons have co-opted nuclease-deficient CRISPR-Cas systems to catalyze RNA-guided integration of mobile genetic elements into the genome. Programmable transposition of Vibrio cholerae Tn6677 in E. coli requires CRISPR- and transposon-associated molecular machineries, including a novel co-complex between Cascade and the transposition protein TniQ. Donor DNA integration occurs in one of two possible orientations at a fixed distance downstream of target DNA sequences, and can accommodate variable length genetic payloads. Deep sequencing experiments reveal highly specific, genome-wide DNA integration across dozens of unique target sites. This work provides the first example of a fully programmable, RNA-guided integrase and lays the foundation for genomic manipulations that obviate the requirements for double-strand breaks and homology-directed repair.

Traditionalists can go off and hide in their snug hobbit holes, but if Whites do not partake of modern technology, others will, and use that ability to solidify their dominion over the Earth.  The Type Is can just go off into the woods, muttering over runes and eating twigs and branches, and leave the rest of us to make our way in the reality of the modern world.

But don’t worry.  Any discoveries made in America will find their way to China before they’re even published.