Wednesday, June 8, 2022

Odds and Ends, 6/8/22

In der news.

There are some interesting subtexts to the movie First Blood, particularly when looked at through the lens of Der Movement. An insular High Truster group telling a White ethnic "we don't want your kind around here" despite that person's service to the broader group (America in the movie, pro-White activism for Der Movement) and using harassment (police tactics in the movie, who is White games and Sallis' Law in Der Movement) to try and force out the "intrusive" element. Then when the targeted person reacts, they're "crazy" and "criminal."

The old GNXP argument - any opposition to an influx of "high IQ" racially and culturally alien types is due solely to a personal selfish "fear of competition." God forbid that one doesn't want to see one's people race replaced, or that one is concerned with EGI, or is fearful of a hostile alien elite, or doesn't want cultural change. No, no, a thousand times no! It is that the buck-toothed Chinaman, spreading disease and engaging in the most ruthless ethnic nepotism (you see, Asians are allowed the ethnic nepotism that Whites are denied) is going to "take that promotion away from you."

Really, these "cognitive elitist" scum are so mendacious, it is incredible The "competition" argument can be turned on its head. Asian HBDers preach to Whites the lie that "ethnic nepotism is not adaptive" because they are afraid of White competition - they know that Asians benefit from practicing ruthless ethnic nepotism and they don't want the White competition to use the same tactics. After all, the status quo is a sweet deal. For example, White American Principal Investigators (PIs) are happy to hire and promote Chinese post-docs and research scientists, while Chinese PIs in America typically only hire and promote other Chinese. Therefore, over time, academic departments become predominantly Chinese, which the HBDers ascribe to "high Chinese IQ." Further, access to White living space, and the desire of some Whites to maintain that space for themselves is a form of competition - are Asians afraid of the competition from ethnocentric Whites?

The most White-hating Blacks still have to look in the mirror and see what they are. Which is precisely why they hate Whites so much in the first place.

All of the tallest buildings and statues, etc. are in non-White nations - in Asia. The hobbit hole twigs and branches crowd may not care, but these things are symbols of civilizational power, prestige, and confidence. Therefore, it is of importance; when the West was at its height of power, it had the grandest structures; now, it has been surpassed by the Asiatic. Perhaps Der Movement should care less about the size of Fuentes and Putin and more about the size of physical artifacts.

To those who say we need “immigration reform” and more (Latino) immigrants to “pick the crops” and “put food on our tables” I have some questions (apart from the obvious one of how a country like, say, Japan, is able to feed its population without importing countless hordes of unskilled Hispanics).  Let us assume we continue to import large numbers of Latinos to “pick our crops.”  Very well.  What happens when these workers grow old?  Who will “pick the crops” then?  Will the children and grandchildren of our current immigrants do so – a hereditary caste of crop pickers?  No, they will not; they will not want to do so. They will want to be upwardly mobile, using whatever legal or illegal non-agricultural careers to make their way.  And they will need to eat too, will need someone to “put food on the table” for them as well. So, who “pick the crops?’’ Answer – yet another influx of hordes of unskilled, alien immigrants.  And when they’re done, another influx, and another, each generation requiring countless unskilled immigrants and each generation of immigrants leaving their posterity as a permanent addition to the population.  Isn’t this so?  And doesn’t that mean that America is going to be filled up with tens or hundreds of millions of the descendants of people brought in the “pick crops?”  Doesn’t that mean that this demographic Ponzi scheme will crowd out, will replace, the original population just so that the agricultural interests can have cheap workers and that consumers can have food a bit cheaper than of other nations that choose not to replace their population with crop pickers and the descendants of crop pickers? Shouldn’t we consider the long term consequences of your request for “more workers?” Further, what ever happened to the idea that the “free market can solve any problem” and that “don’t worry, innovation will solve our problems?” How come the “free market” and “innovation” fail in the specific case of finding alternatives to race replacement immigration in order to put “food on our tables?”  And doesn’t cheap labor stifle innovation by lessening the need?  Haven’t slave labor societies been scarce with mechanical innovation throughout history for that reason (among others)?

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Saturday, November 6, 2021

Odds and Ends, 11/6/21

In der news.

In the past, racism was defined as discrimination against Coloreds to benefit Whites and anti-racism was defined as color-blind equality. Today, racism is defined as color-blind equality and anti-racism is defined as discrimination against Whites to benefit Coloreds. Fifty years of "movement" "metapolitics" really worked wonders, eh?

Premise: All of the negative things happening to Whites occur because Whites let it happen.

Premise: It are pathologically altruistic Whites responsible for letting this happen.

Premise: According to HBD-Nordicism, it are the High Trusters who are pathologically altruistic.

Conclusion: If you believe in HBD-Nordicism, then you must also believe that the High Trusters are responsible for the downfall of the White race (and that Outer Hajnal White ethnics must take up the mantle of White leadership).

See this.  That's a mixed bag. The criticism of Lawrence - a pompous retard - are all on point, and I agree with those. The positive comments about Lawrence are comically wrong, particularly the idea that his criticism of Salter's work is "really good." Lawrence does nothing but rehash HBD/GNXP-style talking points that have been REPEATEDLY debunked since 2003 (mostly by me, by the way), as well as dwell on points Salter discusses in his book, which leads me to believe Lawrence never read it, and is instead depending on the viewpoints of racially self-interested non-White HBDers as well as White HBDers who need to type on their keyboard lying down since the colonoscope-sized Chinatrix strap-on shoved up their rears makes sitting difficult. Lawrence offers nothing of value, which essentially sums up the entire Affirmative Right site.

Gee...I think the accusations of Quota Queens being grifters is hitting a bit too close to home. No, sorry, I don't buy the logic there. Whether or not someone believes in what they say is irrelevant to being a grifter - if they are essentially tricking people in giving them money by pretending to be, or achieve, something they are not - that is in my opinion grifting, regardless of their ideological beliefs. And I have already argued against the "why would they get involved in activism under their own names if they weren't sincere" trope. Look, maybe they originally got involved for sincere reasons, then decided things were hopeless and/or that they themselves were hopeless and incompetent, but then became "trapped" because they had no way back to a normie career. So, in order to survive, they peddle a "brand" to the gullible, sucking up "movement" money while contributing nothing equivalent of value. When someone earns $340K in one year just to maintain a website, don't tell me that they shouldn't be criticized for their greed.

Sallis definition of grifter - someone peddling a belief system who has as their main goal making money; the money is the end and the belief system is the means, as opposed to a genuine activist who merely uses money as a means to achieve the end of promoting beliefs.

Grifter warning signs - people who spend a large fraction of their time fundraising, people who use their own families - including young children - as props for fundraising, people who tell you to to write your will to leave them money when you drop dead, people who earn money out of all proportion to the value they provide, people who refer to their beliefs as a "brand," people who pose as friends of free thinking but censor critics from their sites, people who produce or promote content that attracts page views but achieves no ideological purpose - you get the picture.

You see, the FOX News/Gab "we're all children of God" types are sort of hamstrung if they oppose this. What are they going to say? That they don't want stupid, ugly, and violent feral Coloreds beating up their kids in school? That would be "un-Christian." Jesus is King!

In response to HBD-inspired flim-flam, lying to you that kinship is not significant past immediate family, and is irrelevant to ethny, here is Harpending's paper describing the basic fundamentals Salter used (with Harpending's assistance) in On Genetic Interests.

The coefficient of kinship between two diploid organisms describes their overall genetic similarity to each other relative to some base population. For example, kinship between parent and offspring of 1/4 describes gene sharing in excess of random sharing in a random mating population. In a subdivided population the statistic Fst describes gene sharing within subdivisions in the same way. Since Fst among human populations on a world scale is reliably 10 to 15%, kinship between two individuals of the same human population is equivalent to kinship between grandparent and grandchild or between half siblings. The widespread assertion that this is small and insignificant should be reexamined.

Even the GNXP superhero, the leftist academic Ingo Brigandt admitted that helping co-ethnics could be adaptive because they are genetically more similar, his moronic argument was that ethnic nepotism "could not have evolved" (despite every group except Whites doing it), thus it could not exist - a completely illogical statement.

Wow - we did not evolve to use computers, so obviously we cannot use computers. QED.

The fact that general domain mechanisms can be adapted to alter behavior in novel environments never occurs to these types (or they are simply mendacious) - never mind that there is no reason to assert non-evolving ethnic nepotism.

But, hey, if objective genetic reality, and neo-Darwinian evolutionary theory, means that a buck-toothed, flat-chested, greasy-haired, yellow-skinned, prognathous, broad-nosed, foul-breathed Chinatrix shouldn't live in America, then by golly the genetics and evolution just gotta go!

Please see this. "Fowler" cites and promotes the work of Greg Johnson about Savitri Devi - and of course Fowler IS Johnson.  But, hey, LeBlanc tells you that "movement" "leaders" are not grifters in any way, no siree! In fact, for me to mention that Fowler-Johnson incident is proof my insanity, and my paranoia and being an all-around piece of crap!

Laugh at this. After telling us how unfair it is to call people on the Right grifters, now it is that the “sincere man of genuine greatness” Trump is a grifter.

More:

There are also esoteric reasons why Trump is unfit to hold any position of responsibility

He was caught fondling Savitri Devi’s sari.

It may at first glance seem odd to extrapolate from myth to politics. However, my analysis is not the Right-wing equivalent of argument by analogy to Harry Potter. 

No, we’ll do Lord of the Rings instead.  To the hobbit hole!

…why the Holy Lance drips blood. 

Because a Chinatrix shoved it up a White male HBDer’s ass?

He will be unlike several prominent dissident movement leaders, too, who grew passive and squandered resources and opportunities instead of asking about what they could accomplish.

All of the Quota Queens.

Trump’s role is clearly that of the wounded Grail King, and he should not be confused with the victorious knight to come.

That’ll be Greg Johnson riding on the back of a gay brony “furry” dressed in a pink pony costume.

Who will be our avenging/restoring Grail Knight? It could be Barron Trump. He is preternaturally tall and is born of Melania, a mysterious Queen from a far-off land. 

Like Johnson and Spencer, he’s tall and not a manlet like that Hitler punk.

Today, there is room for something better to grow and to take the place of spent boomerism. Whoever successfully assumes Trump’s mantle must and will reject the silly Enlightenment worldview. Our chosen knight will be as radical as he is traditional, aristocratic instead of populist, and absolute instead of conditional.

Moronic generation warfare combined with bizarre traditionalism.  But, I don’t understand – doesn’t Herr Greggy tell us we must embrace big test populism?

Remember when Greg Johnson posted a picture of Friberg posing with some Swedish Antifa guy as part of his smearing of Friberg? Then what can we say about this?

The FOX News/Gab crowd should look at this., including the cited paper, and answer some questions:

  • Are apes Children of God?
  • Were australopithecines Children of God?
  • Were Homo habilis and Homo erectus Children of God?

Erectus walks amongst us, indeed.

This is American Renaissance:

If it weren't for the Chinese and other professional immigrants, America would have long ago lost its superpower status and China would have become the dominant technological superpower.

Most of the research in the U.S. is done by the Chinese and other immigrants. Chinese and other immigrants are working hard and getting their PhDs in STEM while white people are whining that they no longer are the top dog.

"intellectual property theft and spying on a massive scale" is just an excuse used to put trade tariffs and sanctions on China to stop it from becoming the dominant superpower.

...the U.S. should allow the Chinese to immigrate. It's because Chinese immigrants are doing a large chunk of the research work in the U.S. Without them, the U.S. is very likely to lose its technological edge.

There are dramatic race differences in crime rates. Asians have the lowest rates...

Wherever you look, Asians outperform whites academically and financially...

...we have a considerably less than one standard deviation difference between Asian IQ — North Asian IQ — and white IQ. I think that, too, is a result of genetics, and I think that that is what explains the dominance of Asians in certain fields, and their lower rates of illegitimacy compared to whites, their lower crime rates, their better achievement in school, their higher average incomes...

- Jared Taylor Interview

Someone sums it up:

Amren needs to decide if it is a pro-white website or just an anti-black website. Right now, it is the latter.

Let us face the facts: Amren is an anti-White, Asian supremacist hate site.

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Wednesday, March 3, 2021

Yellow Math

Anti-HBD facts. And other news. In all cases, emphasis added.

See here.

Tenured academics have job security unparalleled anywhere but in government jobs, and spend most of their time either indoctrinating students with “woke” ideology or lapping up taxpayer money on vanity projects posing as “research.” 

More “movement” lies. Or, at least, partial lies. First, tenure is increasingly rare in academia; here I mean real tenure – much of what passes for “tenure” today is simply a title that has zero effect on job security.  Even with real tenure, rightist professors have been “cancelled” for saying and writing the wrong thing. And the description of academic "activity” does not accurately describe much of STEM. Maybe "philosophy PhDs" spend most of their time like that, I don't know.

I was one of perhaps five white students in the entire program; almost all were Chinese. I felt foreign in an American classroom in my home state, surrounded by students who looked nothing like me speaking a language I couldn’t understand.

That is 100% correct.  Alas, the typical “HBD race realist” – perhaps a bit uncomfortable with a Chinatrix strap-on shoved up his ass – believes that situation is 100% right and proper.

It was during this time that I began to realize that Asians are not, in fact, smarter than or similar to white students. The rampant cheating cannot be understated. It was incredibly obvious what was going on, but the professors looked the other way. This is because international students are a cash cow for universities. 

All true. But the economics of it is not the only reason. Most White academics worship Orientals as do most other Whites. 

Asian students study only to pass the test in the easiest, fastest way possible, not to learn any material. 

Also 100% correct.

This was most apparent when we were sent to find real datasets and work through statistical analyses. Real data is messy — Google cannot help you. It requires an actual understanding of statistics, common sense, and creativity in order to understand what data might be telling you. The Asian students tried to parrot examples from our textbooks which were developed with simple, contrived data, and their results were a laughable mess. They were unable to answer hard questions about their work on the theoretical basis, they were unable, and they didn’t grasp any of the assumptions or limitations of their models. But they always aced the tests.

The same tests that filthy scum like Lynn use to “estimate” the high, high IQ of the Chinese and other Asians.

A simple online search yields hundreds of results of Chinese cheating rings for various college entrance exams, including the one for mathematics. This pervasive cheating cost me admission into several universities, since they only accepted the top decile of scorers on this exam. When Chinese and Indian students cheat their way to a perfect score on this exam, this places those of us who took the exam honestly out of the running. 

Asians cheat. Then the HBDers use the “high test scores” to foam at the mouth about Asian “cognitive elitism.”

As for the Asian students and professors, let me dispel the myth that they’re smarter than white students. Asians almost always head straight for the algorithmic disciplines in mathematics such as numerical analysis or theoretical computer science. This is because they can rack up publication counts by marginally tweaking someone else’s work. There is no creativity or originality of thought, and I saw firsthand their abysmal performance in topics like functional analysis, probability, and modern algebra. If they haven’t seen it first done by someone else, they are stuck. They can recite proofs of theorems professors like to use on exams, but they’re completely lost when confronted with something they’ve never seen.

100% correct. Note that Ted Sallis is proven absolutely correct yet again.

Much is said about the extensive intellectual property (IP) theft from Chinese employees. I can corroborate this. One coworker would disappear for weeks on end, ignoring pleas and calls to see his code so I could verify his published results. Most of his publications acknowledged “help” from people in China. We always suspected that he farmed the work out to people in Asia. We pushed hard enough that he quickly left for Uber. He was probably “double-dipping” and collecting a salary from both companies. This is more common than non-tech workers might think, particularly by Chinese and Indians. Some get caught, but most don’t. I always had to watch for coworkers trying to steal my code.

Copy, copy, copy, steal, steal, steal. But, hey, let’s be “yellow supremacist” “HBD race realists,” right?

The office was almost all Indian and Chinese. I was a stranger in my own workplace, in my own country. Asian managers openly discriminate when hiring, preferring their racial kinsmen over everyone else. This helps them all get away with fake credentials, even though their later job performance gives that away. 

Then the alien Asiatic GNXP filth tell Whites that “ethnic nepotism is not adaptive” and mutter something about “the green beard effect.” Lots of “green beards” among Asians, no doubt.

Math departments are stuffed with two different classes of professors: The woke and the Asian. Anyone else is left to languish in the ghetto of adjunct professorship or squeezed out completely. This has absolutely gutted research in mathematics. Nothing useful or creative comes from the Chinese, who are all in a network trying to steal from each other and everyone else…with the installation of Chinese and Indians at the highest levels of corporate leadership, progress stagnates…

That is completely correct.  HBD IS AN UTTER FRAUD.  HBD is nothing more or less than a political movement to privilege Jewish and Asian interests over that of Whites; in many cases, White “HBD race realists” are motivated by an extreme masochistic psychosexual fetish for East Asian “women.”

Other news:

If you want to see an exemplar of concentrated Type I drivel, then laugh at this.

…get you to pump an untested and potentially lethal mRNA 'operating system' into your body.
Hey, it’s been tested in Sallis. Satisfied?  Do any of these morons realize that we need to get most folks vaccinated for this nightmare to end – but then, by the time these anti-vaxx scum reconsider their “position,” we’ll have mutated vaccination-resistant strains (well, we seem to have that already; thanks, China), and the rest of us will have to go through the “jabbing” again and again.

Listen, you ignorant, willfully moronic, retard. “Potentially lethal” – so is driving your car or breathing next to a diseased, filthy, flat-chested, mosquito-bite-size-breasted, foul-breathed, greasy-haired, flat-faced, broad-nosed, prognathous, yellow-skinned, scabrous Asiatrix (you know, the creatures sleeping with is “a rite of passage” in your “Alt-Right”), so is walking outside, and even more so is contracting the covid-19 plague unleashed upon us by all those high-high-IQ Chinese, each of whom could pass for the alien in the movie “ET.” “mRNA operating system” – hysterical, scientifically illiterate moron – they inject the mRNA, it gets translated into the relevant protein in the cytoplasm, your body has an immune reaction to the protein, the mRNA is degraded, case closed. The adenovirus-DNA vaccine is a different story, I would be hesitant there, but you, you scum, mentioned the “mRNA operating system.”  Moron. Idiot. Fool. How about the “potentially lethal Chinese creating one disease plague after another operating system?” Can’t point the finger at The Holy Orientals, huh?

Hey, scum, if you don’t like it all, BLAME THE CHINESE.  I suppose though that you are all hesitant to do that with Ms. Ben Dover Chinatrix approaching you in a threatening manner. Gotta do some of dat dere “measured groveling,” eh?

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Tuesday, February 23, 2021

Full Moon Autism, Liddell on Sallis

And other news. In all cases, emphasis added.

Laugh at this.

Whether attending a birthday party or a social event, people have sometimes referred to me as being “the life of the party.” There have also been times where I found myself excluded from my social circle and community. 

The lack of self-awareness is simply astonishing.

Recently, I found myself not being invited to a birthday party that some of my other friends were invited to.

I suppose they figured that freakish autistes would ruin the mood.

Although I always try to stay positive and optimistic, I couldn’t help but feel ignored and forgotten. 

How about wondering why no one wants to be around you?

Unfortunately, social circles are often filled with drama. Two guys become rivals, so going to a friend’s party means that I become the enemy of the rival and his friends. This may seem immature and childish, but this also happens in the Dissident Right. 

Hey!  Don’t be “crazy and bitter” now!  

Supporting certain content creators means that you sometimes become the enemy of another content creator and their supporters. Even if you try to stay neutral, sometimes you end up being ignored and abandoned by your community. Such is the nature of life and social circles.

Especially when you associate with a Drama Queen who ends up feuding with everyone in the “Dissident Right.”

As much as we try not to care or worry about these things, there may be some evolutionary reasons why we get bitter and resentful when our social circles abandon us. 

“Bitter and resentful?” What a “paranoid piece of crap!”

Whenever I find myself not invited to a social event or party…

A regular occurrence?

…I try to put my feelings aside for a moment and analyze the situation. Could it be that it was simply a misunderstanding? 

No, they simply don’t want to be around you, and for good reason.

There have been a few times when a mutual friend confirmed that the person holding the event did not have my current contact information. Or they mistakenly thought that I did not want to come to their event. 

Sure, sure.

After clearing things up, I ended up going to these events and having a great time. There have also been times where I found out that I wasn’t invited to an event because someone at the event didn’t want me to be there. In a situation like this, I think it is important to find out whether it is one person or numerous people who do not like you.

Believe me…it’s “numerous.”

I learned early in life that despite your best efforts, not everyone is going to like you or be your friend. If there is one person in your social circle that doesn’t like you, my best advice is to continue going to social events and ignore them. This can cause a different set of issues, but you should never let one person force you to miss out on life and social events. The real dilemma comes when two or more people in your social circle convince the others not to invite you to parties or events. 

Friberg pay attention.

This situation has happened to me a few times in my life, and both times caused me to reflect on myself and ask some tough questions. Have my actions and behaviors caused people in my community to not want to associate or spend time with me? 

Yes.

After analyzing the situation, I concluded that it was better to spend the evening alone. 

Evening after evening after evening. “Mom’s basement” is looking better and better, huh?

This metaphor perfectly summarizes the balance between being a bold individual and calming your ego to get along with a group.

He’s a “bold individual”…yeah, yeah, that’s the ticket.

When reading these essays, I eventually realized that I wasted a lot of time and energy over not being invited to a party. Nevertheless, I ended up having a great evening and was happy that I discovered Schopenhauer’s writings.

This navel-gazing childish drivel is reflective of the extent to which Counter-Currents content has collapsed.

Being invited to a party or an event feels great, but it is not the end of the world if I am not invited to some events or disliked by certain people. Some things are just not meant to be. 

A world historical problem solved.

Despite all the fun I had partying with metal bands in my 20s, the last few years in the Dissident Right have been some of the best times of my life. I have made a lot of great friends who have started to form their own networks and communities. 

From which you will not be invited.

Maybe I will see you there. 

I pray not.

Whether I am drinking at a bar with friends or streaming from my mom’s basement, I always enjoy being the life of the party.

“Mom’s basement”…says it all.  This guy’s a walking parody.

Invitation or not.

Usually not.

Laugh at this.

(((TED SALLIS)))

A former Counter-Currents writer of apparent Italian ancestry and probably a late Boomer of [sic] early Ge-Xer. His name is believed to be a pen name derived from a Marvel comics character. Unluckily for him, he was too straight for Greg Johnson's online journal, and fell out with Johnson on the gay question sometime in 2016. His writing can now be found at his rather dull blog EGI Notes.
Unlike certain other folks, I’m not going to screech that this is “scurrilous” (it is rather tame), but I instead will correct one error (not the spelling/grammar error of “of/or”). Thus, while I’m not going to comment about the “apparent” swarthoid ancestry, or “pen name,” or the opinion of this blog being “rather dull,” I’d like to correct something about “fell out with Johnson.” True, I’m heterosexual and I would have left writing for Counter-Currents by 2016 or so due to the increasingly pro-homosexual propaganda there (*). But I had stopped directly writing for Counter-Currents before then, and the real falling out, which occurred much earlier, was mainly due to Johnson’s tolerance of, and promotion of, the scum Andrew Hamilton. I wrote a lot about Hamilton’s Counter-Currents writings at my “rather dull blog” at that time, and those are in the archives here. 

Johnson continued to reproduce my “rather dull” blog posts at Counter-Currents for several years (without asking me, by the way), and I continued to sometimes comment there, but that ended several years ago when Johnson “banned” me due to my criticism of the Hermansson infiltration and my overall critiques of the “movement.” Later Twitter comments by Johnson suggested that others had been urging him to have nothing to do with me, and I can imagine who those individuals were – the usual array of “movement” grifters and incompetents.

Some of the information about other people on that Affirmative Right post is useful, or at least amusing, but I note that Liddell likes to critique the physical appearance of people on the so-called “Dissident Right,” and shares the bizarre obsession over height that many in Der Movement apparently have. Hypocritically, Liddell writes about Duke:
Some of the money may also have been used on the large amount of plastic surgery that he seems to have subjected himself to. This focus on personal "optics" gives off a weirdly sub-masculine vibe, reminiscent of Richard Spencer and Greg Johnson. This is significant as it suggests that people like this are recurring type in racial politics.
Indeed they are. Let’s not focus on "personal optics" or anything like that, right?  Yes, focusing on the physical appearance of other men "gives off a weirdly sub-masculine vibe,” I agree. The lack of self-awareness there is astonishing. 

I do praise Liddell for this description of Durocher though:
In physical terms he is, not surprisingly, a most un-Aryan-looking specimen. Those with an interest in the Aryan archetype often fit into this unprepossessing category (see Weev, Andrew Anglin, Mike Enoch, and Striker for further reference).
Not very Nordic! But Liddell leaves out what is, I believe, the most important point about Durocher. Being a superior Scotsman, I trust that Liddell will eventually figure it all out for himself.

Seriously though, I really don’t get it. Yes, I understand that, in a race-based “movement,” phenotype is of relevance. But there’s a difference between something being relevant in a general sense, and an obsessive fixation on the physical appearance of other men. I honestly could care less what any of these people look like and to what measurement the top of their head would reach in a mug shot. If being tall was relevant for leadership, then Johnson and Spencer would be leading us to victory. Both of them have “Nordic” or at least “Nordish” facial features, yet they are completely inept. So, what’s the point? Are either of them any better than Anglin or Collett?

Zman a wop? I don’t see it. I thought he was most likely of East European ancestry, if not, then maybe Northwest European. But what do I know? In any case, one does not have to be a dago to oppose Liddell’s extreme ethnic fetishism.

By the way, hint to Liddell – your analysis of Brimelow would be effectively augmented by the financial information about VDARE freely online here.

In summary, despite my critiques of Liddell, I note that he does not follow the cordon sanitaire. He may believe this blog is “rather dull” but at least he acknowledges that it exists, which is more than I can say about others in Der Movement. Those others behave as if Sallis was some sort of bogeyman, the mere mention of whom (other than “paranoid piece of crap”) will magically make all of their D’Nations disappear.

*There is no way I would want to be associated with The Homo and the Negro or with My Nationalist Pony. Furthermore, the Pilleater recording was atrocious, the “last straw” for any sort of decency. When a young man complains about homosexual harassment and groping at a meeting associated with your group, the proper response should be outrage and a determination to find out the facts and, if true, BAN the offenders from any association from your group, not to chuckle indulgently about men “flirting” with other men.

Other news:

I laugh at all the nitwits still insisting that cold, winter, and snow are "White"; that winter weather dissuades non-Whites. Sure it does.  After all, good thing there's no Somalis in Maine or Minnesota, right? Wow, Negroes of every type are being kept out by that cold weather, none of them in Boston, New York, Detroit, Minneapolis, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Chicago, etc. No Hispanics there either!  No Hindus or tropical Orientals!  White, White, White!

A comment from Stormfront that may be of interest to the GNXP cogelites:
I can't say I had rally bad experience with blacks since I lived in mostly Mestizo, Hindu and oriental neighborhoods. So it's Mestizos and Hindus for me.
Now I live in a predominantly white neighborhood and there are a few blacks around, but these are white collar people and way more civilized than your average ghetto negroids. I'm just glad I never had to face the crack selling, trouble making, scum of earth ghetto blacks.
When my income was half of what it was today, I had to live in a Mestizo neighborhood and it was total hell. I can't believe I came out of there as one piece. They always fired guns in the middle of the city to celebrate cinque de mayo or weddings, they bred swarms of cockroaches and rats, they got drunk and started fights at 3 am, married couples were throwing pots and pans at the walls whenever they fought (after midnight). There were cops at the door almost every week. Oh, I forgot the loud ass ghetto cacophony with the window shattering bass. I have spent half of my free time calling the cops on these scumbags.
Then I lived in a predominantly Hindu town. That was no walk in the park, either. You'd have a hard time believing that was California: It looked more like freakin' Delhi or Bombay, minus the open sewage and the beggars with leprosy. Even though the Hindus were white collar IT workers and didn't fire guns, smoke crack or start fights in the middle of the night, they were still quite rude and uncivilized. Extremely high pitch screeching banshees (Indian music) has replaced the window shattering bass. They were arrogant, rude, always frowning and irritating. Their brainless wives and kids ran in the parking lot all the time, I was surprised a bunch of them didn't get killed.
Once I had to knock the door of the morons upstairs cause they woke me up with vacuum noise well after midnight. I was so pissed I went out of bed straight to their door in my pj's, looking like a zombie. When I asked what the heck they were doing, they said their kid spilled something on the carpet and they were cleaning it up with the carpet washer! 3rd world idiots probably got too excited and bought every appliance they could lay their hands on. Wiping the carpet with a wet towel is apparently too much of a hassle after they crawl out of their dunghole country!
The other Hindus didn't make much noise but their uncivilized little brown chimp kids did. They gave everyone a headache at the pool by constantly screaming and splashing water on people, and the management did nothing despite all the complaints filed by the handful of white residents. Even though the adult Hindus didn't make much noise except for the idiots with the carpet washer, they made the entire apartment complex reek of greasy food. It reeked so bad you could not breathe in the corridors. They also reeked real bad when you passed near them, they were apparently too broke to buy personal hygiene products after spending all of their money on electronics and gadgets. On top of that, they were breeding a swarms of cockroaches and some of them didn't want to let the pest control treat their apartment cause of their ridiculous beliefs. They believe in reincarnation nonsense, so according to their primitive religion, the cockroaches could be their dead freinds/relatives/whoever and shouldn't be touched!
Another ridiculous 3rd world behavior of theirs was to swim in the swimming pool with long dresses and turbans. Can you believe that? Hindu women swam with long, bulky dresses and the Sikh guys were swimming with their turbans! This is disgusting and a threat to the hygiene.
That was a once decent high income California neighborhood that has descended into 3rd world levels -not pricewise of course, but qualitywise. Nowadays you pay 1300-2000 a month or more to live with that scum, in apartment complexes that cater to the Hindus, displaying Hindu movies in their club rooms and harboring 3rd world savages acting like they are in the Ganges when they use the swimming/spa facilities, stinking up the whole place, breeding roaches and giving any American dirty looks that read 'no more American way of life, you bow to the Indian way of life!' Whites get the most arrogant stares of course.
Then there were the slant eyes. They also had cockroach problems (I have seen GIANT Asian cockroaches come out of the backdoors of Vietnamese restaurants, even $$$ ones), habit of yelling with their irritating language and wife beating. I really got sick of calling the cops on the orientals beating up their wives.
After all these years of suffering and humiliation -I can't think of any other word to describe a situation where you pay $$$ to live in 'upper class' apartments dominated by 'educated' savages with 3rd world habits- I'm really glad to live in a predominantly whie [sic] city and a predominantly white neighborood. I don't mind upper middle class/white collar blacks, at least they are raised with American values and have some first world manners. I'd take a white collar negro over a Hindu or oriental with phd any day!

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Saturday, December 5, 2020

Odds and Ends, 12/5/20

In der news.

Since Counter-Currents is part of the HBD-Nordicist-ethnonationalist alliance, what we must accept – indeed, predict with mathematical certainty – is that the site will engage in ever-more-explicit hostility toward Southern and Eastern European White ethnics.

Case in point:

…it’s still arguable whether Italians are white.

And:
Jim Goad
Posted December 3, 2020 at 5:13 pm | Permalink
I think you’re right about this. In the neighborhood where I grew up, you were either Irish or Italian, and it was clear the Italians weren’t white.
We could in theory extend that analysis to other types of people, but, for example, examining the racial worth and "whiteness" of autistic defectives isn't worth the time. And, after all, Goad, who is mysteriously sensitive on this subject, tells us that only "dumb and inarticulate" people use the term "autistic." Very well. So, a question remains: Is being "colorblind" about Blacks consistent with "caring more about facts than social approval?" One would think it the opposite, no?  

More:
Jim Goad
....I resent Italy for sending all its douchebags here, though.
Personally, I resent people - not anyone in particular, of course, just a general statement of principle - who produce mentally defective children who are a burden on society. 

The economic burden associated with ASD is substantial and can be measured across multiple sectors of our society. Previous analyses that focused on health care underestimated this economic burden, particularly for school systems.
But, wait:
…parents who reported that their child had ASD did not have significantly higher out-of-pocket costs...compared with control parents.
So – an increased economic burden and yet the parents “did not have significantly higher out-of-pocket costs.”  Guess who pays?  

ASD is associated with approximately $3.6 million in lifetime social cost.
The lifetime social costs to date are more than $7 trillion, the equivalent of about two years of total federal revenue for the United States.
By 2029, If prevalence remains the same, the cost will grow to $11.5 trillion, and if prevalence continues to increase at the past rate, the cost will grow to nearly $15 trillion.
On Goad (from Wikipedia, emphasis added):
In May 1997, Goad began dating then-stripper Anne "Skye" Ryan about the time that Debbie was diagnosed with the ovarian cancer that later killed her. Goad described Ryan as "Sweet Dracula girl" and as being "...fifteen years younger than me and a thousand times more fucked-up." In November 1997, Debbie was granted a restraining order against Goad, after stating that he had hit, kicked, and spit on her and threatened to kill her. They divorced in December, 1997.
In May 1998, Goad and Ryan had a fight in Goad's car outside of Portland. Goad left Ryan by the side of the road, and fled to Washington state. When police met Ryan in a hospital emergency room, she had a blackened eye that was swollen shut, "bite marks on her hand and she was bleeding in several places. Goad was charged with assault and kidnapping…Goad plead guilty to reduced charges and served 2 1/2 years, split between jail and prison. He was released in the fall of 2000. When asked if he had any remorse or guilt about beating Ryan, Goad said, "Absolutely not. I enjoyed it."
Oh my God, indeed.

I can’t think of another white criminal syndicate in existence that makes a point of being white.

What about Der Movement?  Certainly, the criminally-oriented are well represented in its ranks.

More HBD-Nordicist Counter-Currents comments in response to Goad's "it was clear the Italians weren’t white."

Paul

Posted December 4, 2020 at 7:46 am | Permalink

The scene between Dennis Hopper and Christopher Walken in “True Romance” is instructive in this regard.

Note how Sallis' Law applies well in this case.  Here we have a Goad essay ostensibly about Black criminal gangs and, of course, it devolves into a discussion about the "whiteness" (or lack thereof) of Italians. After all, what "movement" discussion doesn't end up focusing on that topic?  Godwin's Law has nothing on Sallis Law.

The problem with that whole comments thread was that wop who decided to show up and complain. Why bother?  Just acknowledge that Counter-Currents is an anti-White ethnic, pro-HBD, pro-homosexual site dedicated to raising "D'Nations" and dedicated to promoting HBD-Nordicism-ethnonationalism (actually, ethnoimperialism) and move on. Start your own blog, do your own thing, and just scan Counter-Currents to stay up-to-date to what the opposition is doing; if you want to criticize them, do it in your own forum, or in another forum that supports the interests of all Europeans, instead of supporting the interests of "Rosie and the kids."

My paradigm that Counter-Currents is headed in the direction of Majority Rights is supported by things like this. Regardless of what you think about that cartoon, the facts are that, first, Counter-Currents has pretensions of being the "erudite blog for the 120+ IQ crowd," while, at the same time, catering to Goad's Howard Stern-like essays that are accompanied by crudely racist cartoons and, second, this is exactly like "J. Richards" and his moronic posts that were accompanied by crude anti-Jewish cartoons of a quality that would have made Julius Streicher blush. It's the same appeal to Type I crudity in order to boost page views and cater to the newest toy in the writer playpen (in this case, Goad). It would seem likely that one reason Johnson recruited Goad is to boost page views - and, hence, "D'Nations." The seriousness of that blog (such as it is and was) suffers. And as regards the crude images at Richard Lynn's Pseudoscience - that was openly a satiric blog, openly mocking HBD stupidities - unlike Counter-Currents, there was no pretense there of being the "Ivy League" of WN. The same with satiric content at this blog.

Typical Anglo-Nordicist perspective:

There are Hispanics in the Chicago area, but they mostly act, talk, and look like whites that are “ethnic.”

What?  Dominicans, Italians, Puerto Ricans, Poles, Mexicans, Greeks – all the same!  Damn the wogs!

Obama’s mother was a white liberal from the Anglo-Nordic American majority…

Having “white liberal” and “Anglo-Nordic” in the same sentence is superfluous repetition.

I see all of this at Counter-Currents as a very good thing indeed. After all, I could post for years (as I have done) about how Der Movement is hostile to White ethnics, or about Sallis' Law, or about the HBD-Nordicist-ethnonationalist alliance, and the shabbos sud and shabbos ost stepandfetchits would ignore it all and just go along with Johnson's description of me as "insane." Then comes along the latest crop of moronic Counter-Currents writers and commentators who do nothing but prove my points, time and again.  More, please.

In theory, one shouldn't interfere with an opponent making a mistake, but Johnson can't help himself, so writing this won't change a thing. That blog will continue making this blog look prescient.

GNXPers weep.

See this.

Beyond that, white men are increasingly embittered. Bitterness is a wild card, because it leads to spite. A spiteful man will even harm his own interests to avenge himself. He can’t be reasoned with, predicted, or controlled. A critical mass of white men like that is going to be a problem for more than just the movie business.

I won’t comment on the irony of Johnson’s comment considering his past attacks on me as “crazy and bitter” and “an embittered former writer” (at Counter-Currents).

Heil Hitler!

Meet Mike Lee:

Jack Ryanod 

This horror - sponsoring our people's replacement by lowest wage Indian Shudra was sponsored by Mike Lee US Senator from Utah - White guy, went to BYU.

Hey!  Lee is a Herrenvolk high-truster, and that’s all that matters!

High Trusters!

Tom Cotton and David Perdue publicly supported it. It’s very odd that Perdue and Kelly Loeffler didn’t oppose it since they are desperately trying to convince Georgia conservatives to vote for them right now.


See this.  Maybe that will turn out to be the case.  It is more likely however that Trump will merely tweet "Fraud! Something must be done!" and go out golfing.  Predicting Trump is like predicting the weather, short term - the persistence theory holds; past history is predictive of future events. In Trump's case, ineptness and inertia.  But, hey, if I'm wrong, great, I'll admit it.

The movement is far more serious and capable than it was in 2015 when the “Alt Right” was at its peak. 
No, the “movement” is worse than ever, and will continue to get worse with affirmative action losers in charge.
The movement in-fighting will fade, because it is easier to unite in opposition and there will be no more tactical debates about whether to defend Donald Trump.
Ha!  Tell that to the castrato-voiced Quota Queens who soil their trousers (front side) with every latest criticism of Richard Spencer.


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Wednesday, May 6, 2020

Counter-Stupidity

In der news.

Related to this, an observer rightfully comments:
𝔄𝔩𝔱-𝔄𝔱𝔩𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔦𝔠 Flag of CanadaFlag of England

@AltAtlantic

Replying to 

@NewRightAmerica

In practice a Europe of truly independent nation states would similarly lead to stronger European states ruling over their neighbours. It is only Americas unprecedented power that allows weak states lacking resources, good geographies, or militaries like Slovenia to survive.
To which the gaslighter responds:
Counter-Currents

@NewRightAmerica

Not really. No state in Europe is stronger than the combined forces of the rest of them. 

Some of the smallest states in Europe: San Marino, Monaco, Lichtenstein are among the richest and the oldest.
So, Johnson’s reply implies alliances between European states against other European states – precisely the sort of petty nationalistic politics than brought us two world wars and the wrecking of the White world. Thanks, ethnonationalism!  And why should those alliances only be between European states?  If Denmark is threated by Germany, why shouldn’t the Danes make an alliance with China or India?  Doesn’t Denmark have the “sovereign right” to make foreign policy, to make alliances, as they see fit?  Ethnonationalism!

San Marino, Monaco, Lichtenstein wouldn’t last 30 minutes if a larger European nation wanted their territory (although if Mussolini tried to take San Marino, the Italian “army” would likely have been quickly defeated and Il Duce would have called the Germans in to help).

Those nations exist because they are so small, powerless, and pathetic that they threaten no one and conquering them was not worth the trouble, including the international criticism and ridicule that a major state would garner for bothering such a micro-state (or, in the case of Italy, being defeated by one).

A more reasonable example would be, e.g., Belgium, a small nation repeatedly over-run and conquered by more powerful neighbors (dem dere “alliances” didn’t help too much, eh?).

Are San Marino, Monaco, Lichtenstein the models for Johnson’s European future?  Small atomized states ripe for the picking by Wandering WASPs, horny Danes, and homeless Saxons?

Please read this; emphasis added:
Morgan moved to India in 2009 to focus on Integral Traditions full time while living at a Hare Krishna ashram…Morgan and Arktos moved to Budapest, Hungary in 2014…
Morgan…was in his forties with nowhere to go. That’s when he talked to Greg Johnson from Counter-Currents. He joined Counter-Currents in August 2016, and left Arktos for good in 2017.
Counter-Currents, founded in 2010, was the brainchild of movement philosopher Greg Johnson. In a white nationalist movement known for its working class and rural base, Johnson stands out with his erudite name dropping, tailored suits, and PhD. While Johnson had a brief career in academia, he was inspired to change career paths when he was first introduced to white nationalism in 2000. Once he believed his race was in an existential battle to survive, nothing else really seemed to matter.
After a controversial two-and-a-half-year run editing the white nationalist journal The Occidental Quarterly, Johnson had mixed up bad blood with the publisher and needed a new gig. What resulted was Counter-Currents, a book publishing house founded on June 11th in 2010 with his comrade Mike Polignano, that was going to focus on what Johnson was coining the “North American New Right.”
Johnson’s mission started, in a lot of ways, by following the lead of the eccentric Nazi, Savitri Devi. Known for her outlandish claims, like that Hitler was an avatar of the Vedic god Vishnu, Devi mixed esoteric Hitler worship and Hinduism in a strange synthesis that continues to have ripples across the right. Johnson started by publishing her archive before putting her books back into print, including her opus The Lightning and the Sun. Johnson dove headfirst into this esoteric sphere, publishing, for example, two books by Collin Cleary, best known for dense books on heathen theology based on a concept some writers have labeled as “metagenetics.” Inspired by a tract by Carl Jung analyzing the rise of Hitler, metagenetics is used by “folkish heathens” who see the Nordic pantheon of mythic gods emanating from the subconscious of people of Northern European descent. Gods are Jungian archetypes that represent the spiritual and psychic nature of the Germanic peoples, and therefore the neo-heathen religion, as practiced today, is an attempt to reclaim that racial consciousness.
More recently, his work (and photo) was exposed by a Hope Not Hate investigation that infiltrated alt-right circles with a clever backstory and a hidden camera.
"Clever backstory" - essentially, "I'm Swedish.".

This is not true if Der Movement takes over – we’ll descend into a scientific dark age without end, an abyss.

There was a time in my life where I wore a black leather trenchcoat and sunglasses every day of the week. Even in summer. Especially in summer.
Jackass.
Being a young white man…
A young Turko-Albanian “Macedonian.”
…I have no particular attachment to the economy. 
Particularly when you parasitize on your mother.
In fact, while it is not 100% correct to call the economy a massive con job run by the old, nonwhites, and women on young white men, it is a good enough heuristic, and living your life as if it were true is a good way to extricate yourself from modernity. In fact, “crashing the economy” sounds like a pretty good deal to me. Now, some of the older white guys, specifically of Ramzpaul’s generation, were grandfathered in and have a stake in the economy. Naturally, they feel disgusted and horrified that the young bloods no longer want to be chumps.
More juvenile Millennial “Boomer-baiting.”  They do it because they have nothing else to say. Millennial WN 2.0 is intellectually and morally bankrupt, hence the collapse of the Alt Right.
I was never that scared of Corona-chan, either. Believe you me, reader, I know my way around rowdy oriental women (hint: they find black leather trenchcoats irresistible). 
Oh, of that I’m sure. Where would the HBD-led alliance be without yellow fever, hidden behind crude analogies with coronavirus?  With these guys, it’s all about sex – either the heterosexual Asiatrix lovers or the homosexual lovers of “blossoming” young men.
Globohomo has already taken everything of consequence from you. 
What about the “homo” part of Globohomo?  What’s Greggy and Jimmy and Dewey going to say about that?
And what of your freedom to go out and work? That’s a freedom? People are empowered and ennobled by toiling away, building someone else’s dream? Give me a break. Globohomo wants you working, white man. You have to toil in the fields so that fat POC women can have 10 children by 15 different fathers. You have to sit in a stuffy office, bent over a desk, so that the hens in HR…
Or your “Macedonian” mother.
…can have someone to torment and get paid to do it. You have to address stuffed shirts as “sir” because some obese boomer…
As opposed to an obese Millennial acting like a juvenile jackass.

Jeelvy is, by far, the worst writer in this history of the Far Right.  Reading Jeelvy’s “work” is like eating an air sandwich – completely empty, completely devoid of meaningful content.

And anyway, the fundamental problem here is taking boring Alt Lite milksops like Ramsey seriously to begin with.  Blame Johnson and his “big tent” for that – I was against “big tent” mainstreaming from the very beginning, as long-time readers of this blog well know.


Against Durocher (spelling correct, emphasis added):
Nick Diaz says:

September 27, 2019 at 4:39 am GMT • 400 Words

“Guillaume Durocher” is the resident nordicist at Unz. Pretty much every article of this guy is praising the Nordic “race” as superior to those southern and eastern Europeans. Just another Madison Grant or Gunther, and other exponents of pseudo-science.
The logical pirouettes (using a French word for the French guy) that he engages in to prove the superiority of Nordics are remarkable. For instance, when pressed with the obvious fact that for some 4,000 years of recorded history that southern Europe was much more advanced in pretty much every way than northern Europe, and that northern Europe only started to pull ahead in the last 500 years since the Renaissance – in fact, NE only started to really pull ahead in the XVIIIth century with the Industrial Revolution -, his solution when presented with this conundrum is to argue that the Northern European Brain is exceptional at creating highly complex societies, but not really the more simple types of societies that pretty much everyone else in the World had besides NE. You know, cities with sanitation, multi-store buildings, etc.
The argument is completely outrageous. This is like saying that a person can understand calculus but not arithmetic. Or can write like Kafka or Dostoevsky, but cannot learn the “A, B, C”. It is absolute 100% crap.
“Nordics” did not achieve more than SE for some 4,000 years because they are not more intelligent. Simple as that. Are the NE more intelligent than the Chinese too, who were also far more advanced than NE for 4,000 years too?
How do you explain the German in the south of Brazil, that are barely better than the typical Brazilian?
Fact is, there are many, many, many more plausible explanations for differing achievements between people other than the huge stretch of ” brain size” and “intelligence” something that has no meaning as mental abilities are varied – IQ tests are absolute crap, so don’t even bring that up..
The majority of Unz readers are white people of NE ancestry, so they will agree with this article. Of course: everyone likes having their egos massaged, and feeling like a member of a “superior” group is very attractive, even and especially when one is devoid of personal accomplishments. 
Nick Diaz says:

September 27, 2019 at 5:03 am GMT • 200 Words

@Guillaume Durocher
Except that you are completely wrong. The most culturallly accomplished Greek city state was Athens, which was considered *the most heavily Pelasgan* of all the Greek city-states. The Pelaasgans were the original Greeks before the Indo-European invasions. The Dorians, the Indo-Europeans, were considered barbarians by the original Greeks. They not so much “created” Greek civilization but usurped it. In fact, this seems to be the pattern with northern Europeans: unable to create any sort of civilization of their own, at least the most fundamental level, they only progress by copying the civilizations of the “inferiors” they conquered. This was true of the Dorian invaders in Greece, and the Indo-Aryan invaders of India.
You, my friend, are a nordicist. Every other article from you is you praising the master NE master race to no end. It’s pathetic. Worse is that you are probably not even that Nordic. Unless you are a pure descendant of the Normans in Normandy, you almost certainly are primarilly of Mediterranean extraction like most French people. Even the Franks were not pure Nordic.
The interesting thing here is not the details, not the opinions of "Nick Diaz" with respect to intra-European differences. To me, the most important thing is that someone else other than Sallis correctly identifies Durocher as a hardcore Nordicist, willing to distort facts and hand-wave bizarre interpretations to advance his HBD-Nordicist agenda.

Now, someone may argue - hey, YOU featured the brain size/structure material on your blog first; in fact, that is where Durocher got it from.  That's true.  But that's the point - I'll post and talk about facts wherever they may lead. I'm not a Medicist; I oppose Medicism as much as I oppose Nordicism.  I am for all Europeans, and, unlike Durocher, I'm honest enough to cite the strengths and weaknesses of different European types with blunt honesty.  On the other hand, even when Durocoher appears to (very mildly) critique Nordics, he's actually praising them.  What?  Asian admixture (the extent of which he downplays)?  It's "of great benefit to all humanity" and he explains why it's a good thing.  The propensity of Nordics to self-destructive SJWism is because they are so "honorable and disinterested and altruistic, etc." You get the picture. Durocher has never produced a piece in which he unapologetically harshly critiques Nords on a racial (or any other) basis, but he does so to Meds (e.g., admixed [in a bad way], small-brained, less intelligent, less productive, less capable, etc.).  

Trump: But he’s a sincere man of genuine greatness, right Greg?  This is one of Johnson’s most despicable features – not only is he ALWAYS wrong, about just about everything, but he never admits it, and in fact pretends his previous errors never happened. A sterling combination of bad judgment and complete dishonesty. Only at EGI Notes was Trump termed a “vulgar ignorant buffoon” from even before the 2016 election.

A typical South Asian cognitive elitist.  We need “hundreds of thousands” of such invaders per year, right GNXP?

Wolf warriors.  China is waging war on humanity.  HBD traitors aid China.  How will YOU oppose China today?  How will YOU oppose HBD today?   What will be YOUR legacy in the war of humans vs. Chinese?

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