Answering an Ignorant Stupid Bastard

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Ignorant stupid bastard:

You forgot the real argument: “If the vaccines work, why do you care if I take it? You’ll have taken yours and be immune.”

I’ve discussed this before and I will do so now again. Others should care if you get vaccinated because:

1. Even the best vaccines are not 100% effective. If the vaccinated person is one of the unlucky ones who do not develop immunity, they will still be vulnerable to your disease. This applies to vaccines that inhibit transmission; we do not yet know if this is the case for the covid-19 vaccines. However, the “argument” above refers to vaccines in general, so the point holds. When enough people are vaccinated, herd immunity will protect those individuals who are not immune.

2. There are people who for legitimate reasons cannot get vaccinated. Thus, similar to point #1, with its caveats, generating herd immunity through vaccination protects those who, for no fault of their own, are not protected via vaccination.

3. Again assuming inhibition of transmission, and particularly when dealing with a RNA virus, the longer the pandemic continues, the greater the chance of mutations, including those that can evade the vaccinations. Perhaps we should not be surprised that a particularly nasty strain erupted in Brazil, a nation with a Der Retard of Der Right style blowhard leader.

4. Even if the vaccine in question only prevents (serious) disease rather than inhibiting transmission, there are social costs for having large numbers of people getting seriously ill, being hospitalized, and dying because of the disease. Those who get vaccinated unfortunately have to live in the same society as anti-vaxx ignorant stupid bastards, and the moronic decisions of the anti-vaxxers affect the quality of life and standard of living for everyone, not just themselves. They are asocial sociopaths who free-ride on the vaccinations of others. They are the lowest form of filthy scum imaginable.

And as regards the right-wing retards gibbering about why there are so few flu cases this year:

Influenza doesn't spread as well as the coronavirus. The average number of people one person with the flu infects - a measure known as the reproductive number - is 1.28. Typically, someone sick with the coronavirus passes it onto between 2 and 2.5 people. In part, this difference is because the coronavirus can be airborne, remaining suspended in the air for hours. That's not true of the flu, though viruses can jump from person to person via respiratory droplets and contaminated surfaces.

The coronavirus' higher reproductive number "means it is more challenging to prevent transmission through non-pharmaceutical interventions than it is for influenza," Olsen said. 

What's more, existing immunity in the population - whether from previous infections or vaccinations - can also boost the effects of public-health measures like masking, resulting in a more dramatic reduction in transmission, Olsen said.

The flu vaccine has been around for more than 75 years. Vaccine manufacturers projected that they will supply the US with as many as 194 to 198 million doses of influenza vaccine for the 2020-2021 season, according to Olsen. 

"Contrast this against a novel coronavirus, to which nearly the entire population is susceptible," she said.

When it comes to anything that has the slightest connection to science, Der Right continues to be a tragicomic embarrassment. Case in point.

Der Liars of Der Right also claim that flu is lower this year despite less flu shots being given, which is a complete lie; see this about flu shots:

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's tracking of flu vaccine distribution over the years shows that so far in the 2020-2021 flu season, 189.4 million flu vaccines have been distributed in the U.S., compared to 174 million in the 2019-2020 season.

Also see this.  

Der Right, Der Right, Der Right ALWAYS lies.

Some good critical thinking from a TOO commentator:

Franklin Ryckaertsays:

February 4, 2021 at 5:59 am

There is a logical contradiction in Belloc’s racial explanation for the Crusader’s ultimate defeat in the Middle East. If they lost due to racial admixture with the local population, then how could that very same local population win, while they had no (supposedly superior) Frankish blood at all?

It is difficult for us moderns to feel admiration for the Crusaders who needed the sudden “discovery of the Holy Lance” (an obvious fraud) to recuperate their valor in battle.

The Crusaders were not only utterly superstitious but also cruel, far more cruel than the Muslims of Saladin, whose chivalry was proverbial.

All in all, the Crusades were a foolish undertaking (think the Children’s Crusade) and a waste of energy. That energy would have been better used in liberating Spain from the Muslims, thus hastening the Reconquista by at least 3 centuries.

Belloc would I suppose answer that the natives were better adapted to the environment and that purebloods, even of “inferior stock,” are more stable than purebloods. Other commentators talk about “divided loyalties” and/or the larger numbers of inferior Near Easterners. But, still, the criticism is valid. Belloc’s argument, although possibly true, doesn’t have any strong evidence to support it as a definitive causative mechanism, and then adding more and more hand-waving “spin” to answer Ryckaert’s criticism doesn’t help.

Griffin is, to me, more honest than is Johnson about Trump.

In my view, Donald Trump was simply the material that was available that a rising tide of populism latched onto in the 2016 election. It wasn’t the man himself who brought all of those people into the GOP. It was the message that he ran on which struck a chord with disaffected voters in the middle. The Pew typology surveys clearly show that those people had been around for over thirty years.

No answers?  Well, ”Christian Zionism” is unlikely to flourish in soil from which Christianity has been eliminated. Crush the Infamy!

See this. If those data, and Griffin’s interpretations of the data, approximate reality, then what does this tell us? It tells us what a miserable failure Der Movement, and its pitiful “leadership,” is, not making progress with the potentialities at hand. It has been the Sallis Groupuscule that has been telling you that the freakishness of Der Movement, its bizarre and repulsive dogmas, and its rent-seeking and inept “leaders,” who been alienating the White American masses and have stymied progress. Only a New Movement with a merit-based leadership, instead of prancing affirmative action Quota Queens, can get the job done. If I am wrong, and if we assume the data reflect reality, then why does Der Movement ALWAYS fail?  Answer – I’m not wrong, and the Quota Queens, frightened of losing the personal egotistical stranglehold on pro-White activism, call me an “insane paranoid piece of crap” to deflect attention from their manifest failures.

See this comment. That's all true, but that gets back to the point of how the Far Left has achieved their position of power and security; further, when considering the corporate-Left alliance, described in The NY TImes, to "fortify" the election, one has to admire the long-term strategic acumen of the Left. You see, while Der Movement has spent time giggling over The Turner Diaries, masturbating over March of the Titans, and gibbering about Kali Yuga, the Left actually did the serious political work of infiltrating society and building a real power base.

Der Movement, Der Movement, Der Movement fails again.

Ignorance is Bliss, 12/23/19

Der Movement must be very happy.

Counter-Currents comment and my riposte:

James Dunphy

Posted December 21, 2019 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

Thanks for sharing. Hindu people are very open minded about sending their kids to Catholic school. They dont have the hostility to Christianity most Jews do. The next time I see a South Asian person, I’ll wish them a Merry Christmas.

That’s the HBD thing to do. GNXP no doubt wishes all you White untouchables a very Merry Christmas!

Overall, I consider South Asians, Iranians, Turks, Cypriots and Caucasus peoples to be non-white but close to the white borderline. They are genetically closest to whites of all non-whites. 

What about Berbers?

You can see this on a principal component analysis. 

And Jews are even closer. Mazel Tov!

Together with whites they are Caucasoids, meaning they have similar skull, face, and brain characteristics. 

Even European ethnic groups and subraces differ among themselves in those metrics, idiot.

This relates to mental function in my opinion.

Your opinion is worthless.

On Myers Briggs, South Asians are closer to whites than Hispanics. They differ only on Thinker vs Feeler psychology. Whites are Feelers and South Asians Thinkers, which basically means South Asians are more rational and whites more spirited, principled etc. 

Can you believe this stupidity?

On the other traits they are nearly identical. 

Whew!  Hey, there’s no race problem!  There are over a billion near-Whites in South Asia. All they need is Matt Parrot’s “functional Whiteness” program and they’ll move into the White category.

I imagine other non-whites close to the borderline are similar to South Asians.

I imagine that you are an idiot.

Intellectually, South Asians in America don’t reflect their home nations well because their average IQ is 110 whereas in India the average IQ is I believe in the upper 80s, with it differing strongly along caste lines.

IQ!  HBD!

Overall, I’m not surprised Indians adopt Christmas or that some whites adopt Buddhism. They are close genetically, and it makes sense.

That’s what we call Der Movement Type I logic.

South Asians are not “close” to Whites (Europeans) genetically unless you mean relatively speaking compared to Sub-Saharan Africans or East Asians. Myers Briggs test results are irrelevant for genetic kinship and ethnic genetic interests, as are imbecilic speculations about alleged Hindu affinity for the Middle Eastern religion of Christianity (and is that a good thing even if true?).

This “Dunphy” seems familiar. Is this the same moron who, years ago at Majority Rights (comments section), was confusing geological ancestry with genetic ancestry and inventing a “law of halves” so he insisted that it wasn’t possible for a person to be, say, 7% of a certain ancestry – they could only be 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32, etc.?  It didn’t matter how many times it was carefully explained to him; he just couldn’t understand it.  If this is the same moron, that would explain a lot.  Do we wonder why the HBDers and fetishists have such an easy time lying to the droolcup contingent of the semi-retarded “movement?”

Watching the miniseries A Very English Scandal (*), I was impressed with Ben Whishaw’s realistic portrayal of an effeminate homosexual/bisexual.  Alas, art and life overlap:

Whishaw entered into a civil partnership with Australian composer Mark Bradshaw in August 2012.[27] In 2014, he publicly discussed his coming out, saying that it was a tense experience for him but "everyone was surprisingly lovely.”

They really like using the word “lovely,” don’t they?  Have we seen that recently elsewhere?

Homosexuality obviously has a strong biological component, the cries to the contrary from Christinsanity (not a misspelling) notwithstanding.

*A show that was a shameless shilling for gay rights and tolerance.  Further, if all the assertions there were accurate (Bessell and Carman being bisexual in addition to Thorpe), then one wonders how widespread homosexuality was in the post-WWII (and pre-WWII for that matter) English/British elite. You know, the folks who sold out their racial patrimony in the most disgusting lickspittle fashion (emphasis added):

Jeremy Thorpe was one of the most talented politicians of postwar Britain. Elected to Parliament in 1959 at the age of thirty, he was an advocate for liberal causes (small and capital “L”), including the abolition of capital punishment, increased immigration from the Commonwealth, proportional representation in elections, and British membership in the European Economic Community (forerunner to the European Union). One of the most impassioned parliamentary critics of white minority rule in South Africa and Rhodesia, Thorpe was an outspoken supporter of sanctions on both these formerly British territories; he even advocated bombing the latter after its illegal Unilateral Declaration of Independence.

Sallis vs. Sailer on the Census

Sailer’s HBDite stupidity.

Those who read Sailer often see his “Flight from White” ramblings about the US Census.  Steverino is opposed to Middle Eastern North African (MENA) being a separate category from “White” – he wants the MENA folks lumped in with Euro-Americans.  He has also criticized the fact that South Asians have already been removed from the “White” category due to South Asian ethnic lobbying (similarly, the MENA crowd are actively lobbying for the same).  Sailer notes that these groups in the past wanted to be counted as “White,” but now that Whites are a subaltern “untouchable” group in today’s Jewish-Colored Supremacist America, the NECs want to flee as fast away from “White” as possible.”

However, the point has to be: what is best for America and more specifically what is best for Whites – Euro-Americans?  I do not remember Sailer ever clearly stating (at least at VDARE – I don’t care about the Unz site) why having NECs counted as White is something desirable.  Trying to parse Sailer’s “writings” I conclude that he believes that if MENAs and South Asians are “binned” as “White” then they will (be forced to) identify politically with Whites and White interests, reinforcing the power of the majority and its interests.  The fact that these groups were (South Asians) or are (MENAs) grouped with Whites and certainly reject any sort of “White” identity, political or otherwise, somehow escapes Sailer.  That the Jews have always been politically counted as “White” and have been the greatest enemy White Americans have ever had also escapes Sailer’s HBD brilliance.

Sailer confuses cause and effect.  He apparently believes that how people are categorized in the census affects how they consider themselves in a racial-social sense.  This is clearly not the case.  Instead, the reality is that how people consider themselves in the racial-social sense determines how they want to be categorized in the census.  There’s also crypsis involved: while Jews do not consider themselves “White” in the same sense Euro-Americans do, Jews also have an instinctive urge for crypsis, to want to hide their alieness, made easier for most Ashkenazi since the typical mind-benumbed White gentile cannot identify obvious Jews (but usually can identify gentile Middle Easterners, South Asians, etc.).  So, for the most part, Jews are content to be legally “White” despite not really considering themselves so; on the other hand, (non-Jewish) MENAs and South Asians have no desire for crypsis and for the most have part no chance of being successful at crypsis even if they were so inclined.

So, Sailer’s wrong-headed ramblings on this subject are his typical “look how clever I am posturing” in which he usually ends up looking like a pompous idiot (in other words, an HBDer).

There are real costs to Sailer’s agenda here, costs for Whites.  Binning MENAs (including Jews by the way) as “White,” never mind doing the same for South Asians, obfuscates, masks, and hides the degree of real demographic change, artificially inflates White numbers, and dampens down something that any White racialist (as opposed to an anti-White HBDer) wants to see occur: a strong White reaction against demographic displacement.  Here Sailer is on the same page as the System, as the Left, which wants to calm White fears, promote an “anyone can become White” storyline, and postpone White political reaction to race replacement reality.

We need to know the real demographic facts on the ground, no matter how harsh, instead of indulging in deadly fantasies that say that if a previously White town becomes transformed into a holding pen for Syrian refugees, then no demographic change has taken place.

Euro-Americans should have their own category.  Indeed, we should drill down even deeper.  Even with intra-White mating blurring ethnic boundaries, it would still be useful to know how many White Americans identify as various ethnic groups, etc.  Knowledge is good, as they say.  And contra Sailer, asking people if they identify as German-American is not going to lead to a revival of the Bund.  

Short summary: observe what it is that the HBDers recommend and support the opposite.

Der Testing in Der News, 5/11/17

Genes, genes, genes...

In the past, I was accused of taking DNAPrint too seriously; today, people in and out of the “movement” take today’s testing even more "too seriously."

That’s laughable. 23andme is just as laughable.

And now for academic population genetics.

Lies!

More Medish lies!

See this.

And this.

No, no, a thousand times, no!

No matter how those greaseballs shuck and jive, we all know that this is a Negress, a 100% pure sub-Saharan African, racially perfectly akin to, say, a Nigerian.