Whither Civic Nationalism?
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Typically shallow analysis and comments.
There is a clear and obvious difference between using civic nationalism as a tactic – as a political technic – to win elections and to reach out to people, and actually defending civic nationalism on an ideological basis.
I have nothing against faux-civic nationalism as a tactic under certain circumstances (although mainstreaming is a proven failure; Trump won in 2016 by moving much further to the Right than his previous history indicated – farstreaming), but I utterly oppose anyone making (pseudo) intellectual defenses of civic nationalism as something inherently good, desirable, and preferable.
Possibly best is a candidate who says, “look, under present conditions, we all need to come together and stabilize America before the ship sinks and we all go down with it; after that, we need to find more long-range solutions to our problems.” Democratic multiculturalism can be thrown into the mix. If, like me, you don’t believe in “worse is better” than this approach has the dual benefit of being a viable political technic/tactic and also a stepping stone for further radicalization. Suvorov’s Law has more historical evidence behind it than “worse is better.” One could always cite the foreign threat (e.g., China) as another reason for an interregnum in which the American ship can be kept afloat long enough to allow us to man the lifeboats and effectively save ourselves in a coherent fashion.
In the case of mixed-race men, only those with at least 50% White ancestry shall be permitted to gain citizenship, provided that the other 50% contains no Black or Jewish ancestry. For the aforementioned qualifying mixed-race, half-White citizens, their non-White parent may reside in our nation, but cannot gain citizenship and cannot own property. The aforementioned qualifying mixed-race, half-White citizens may also marry full-blooded Whites. All other forms of miscegenation shall be forbidden, punishable by expulsion.
After all, we need to keep the HBDers on board, right? Hail Asia! I guess it’s designed for “Rosie and the kids.”
Get this:
Animal cruelty, including animal testing, vivisection, and factory farming, shall be punishable by death. Factory farming practices that do not rise to the standard for animal cruelty shall be prohibited, punishable by economic seizure and imprisonment.
Do you need any more evidence that Der Movement is anti-science, anti-technics, and anti-progress? No animal testing! There goes all in vivo scientific research! Make a transgenic mouse? To the gas chamber with you! And how are all the Jef Costellos out there going to have their “carnivore dirt” without “factory farming?" Do you think you can feed a White population of, say, 200 million, with a diet that includes meat from “free range?” No mass production? Good luck with that.
Once again Sallis is 100% correct. A Der Movement “ethnostate” would bring us to 14th century living standards real quick. But, hey, you can all be snug in your hobbit hole as you die from preventable diseases.
By the way, if you want to diminish “animal cruelty” then nuke China. But, no, the Yellow Gods are sacrosanct, right? A pampered lab mouse is a crime worthy of the death penalty; Chinese eating animals alive is, well, A-OK! Let’s not offend the future wives of your White citizens, eh?
On a related note, have you noticed how few genuine STEM people there are in Der Movement? Have you noticed that the vast majority of "movement" PhDs are in fields other than the real sciences (biology, chemistry, physics, etc.) and are instead in such things as philosophy or the oxymoron of "social science?" Doesn't it strike you as strange that a "movement" centered primarily on the biological basis of race, and concerned with genes and heredity, would be so deficient in biologists and other scientists? Well, if you understand that the Far Right is just as anti-science as is the Far Left, then none of that should be surprising at all. At "best," both ends of the political spectrum use superficial "science-ism" in a purely instrumental fashion, but none of them have any genuine understanding of science, the scientific mindset and method, and its importance. Given the natural tropism of academics to the Left (likely due to the historical anti-intellectualism, reactionary anti-progress philosophy, and anti-materialist religious traditionalism of the Right), the Far Right needs to work double-hard to be a congenial environment to the STEM people it desperately needs. But, no. Instead the inept Quota Queens - as usual - muck it all up and do exactly the opposite.
Greggy being a non-paranoid all-around nice guy. Anyway, you see, “punching right” is A-OK, as long as Greg is the one doing the punching, If he gets punched, then the puncher is a vile paranoid piece of crap, don’t you know.
A reasonable comment:
Ambrose Kane
Posted September 11, 2020 at 10:42 pm | Permalink
With all due respect Greg, why is Millennial Woes again being given a platform, especially with his self-admitted personal failures, addictions and moral indiscretions? The man literally openly and publicly admitted his own failings and said he would step away from the movement, and even conceded he should not be looked upon as a leader – yet, apparently, here we are again giving him a platform “to talk about current events, life as a dissident, and your questions.”
The last time I wrote about Woes on this site, my comments never saw the light of day, and I suppose it will occur again now. You have every right to either accept or reject readers’ comments since it is your site. Still, I think we as dissidents need to be careful who we give a platform to, especially to those who have evidenced a pattern of moral indiscretions, addictions, and alcoholism? The man’s life appears to be in shambles. Does he even work and hold down a job? Even physically and visually, the guy looks like a wreck.
I’m not denying that Woes is relatively intelligent, and he may indeed say good things at times, but crying out loud is this really the sort of person we want to promote for our cause?!
Come now (no pun intended), Woes has certain Mannerbund tendencies, at least in part, so he’ll always be welcome at Counter-Currents. Will “Tim” and “Brendan” be invited to the livestream as well?
Borat:
Nicholas R. Jeelvy
Posted September 11, 2020 at 9:59 am | Permalink
He makes a very good argument for the necessity of a civic creed that’ll hold the body politic together, even in an ethnically homogenous country. Unfortunately, unless approached with nuance, this argument will be interpreted as “we only need a civic creed”, as I’ve already seen from people on twitter desperate to distance themselves from ethnic nationalism.
Where is Greg Johnson now to lecture us all about “homogeneous” vs. “homogenous?” After all, let’s get all those words containing “homo” correct now, shall we?
Mental disease? Being a woman?
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