America is Ready for Some Movement Reality
A riposte to a Counter-Currents article.
First, Robert Wallace:
Your pessimism is simply not grounded in reality, my friend. I suggest you listen to my radio interview and refer to the original article and its comment section. No one has come up with a convincing case against Greg and I yet.
Excuse me you mendacious moron, Greg Johnson censors and bans people from his blog and refuses to debate people who could "come up with a convincing case against Greg and I."
It’s real easy to say opponents don’t have a “convincing case” against you when you ignore said opponents, refuse to engage with them and debate them, and censor/ban them from commenting on your website. Under those conditions, you’ll find a lack of effective ripostes, no doubt.
As we can see, character is not a strong point in Der Movement.
American patriots are hungry for white identity politics. It was inevitable. White nations are being wrecked by non-whites acting as tribal blocs. Whites are being attacked as a tribal bloc. Eventually, whites will start fighting back as a tribal bloc.
Sure! I have been hearing that now for only twenty-five years now. See this, which is several years out-of-date already. White folks are waking up! They need to wake up a bit faster, since they’ve hit the “snooze” button for at least the last quarter century.
Whites have been slow to respond in kind because of traitorous leaders and the silly idea that identity politics is bad, but only for white people.
Yes, and also because the pro-White “movement” (Der Movement) has been an utter and complete failure, led by affirmative action grifters and populated by a bunch of freaks.
Still, it was only a matter of time before white Americans woke up and started fighting back as whites. Polling data now shows that the awakening is here:[material deleted]
You can read that alleged evidence and the links in the original Counter-Currents article. The details really aren’t all that important, since typical and predictable Der Movement failure will, with clockwork regularity, waste the opportunity, and, once again snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
The people who are most surprised by this are long-time white advocates, some of whom have been predicting for decades that such an awakening is inevitable.
Yes, indeed, we’ve been hearing this for decades and it is tiresome.
It is true that white identity was almost nonexistent as recently as the 1990s.
Were you involved in Der Movement in the 1990s? “Almost nonexistent” is a vast exaggeration. It was less than today - that is true enough. But "almost nonexistent?"
But due to Obama, Trump, Black Lives Matter, the Great Replacement, and open anti-white hatred, whites have caught on to their group interests.
Really? Yes, I know opinion polls and other pieces of evidence are moving somewhat in that direction. But to conclude that “whites have caught on to their group interests” is delusional. This is the result of people in their little cul-de-sacs, fueling their beliefs, and reading too much into an uptick in White disillusionment, which may or may not be permanent. If “whites have caught on to their group interests” Trump would have won in 2020 (putting aside accusations of election fraud), and Whites would be more actively resisting the Left. Further, the “whites have caught on to their group interests” is not evenly distributed among the White population. Such a “catching on” is enriched among less educated, working class, red state Whites, and less extant among educated professionals. I can tell you that the antics of the pro-White “movement” have alienated STEM people. There is a vicious cycle in which the subset of Whites that Der Movement focuses on, and the behavior of Der Movement, alienates other elements of the White population, including elements that will ultimately be required for eventual victory. The more those people are alienated, the more we have pro-White Whites being concentrated on the aforementioned red state elements (think FOX News viewers and Gab users), resulting in more alienation of others, etc. This is not a blueprint for success.
This will only intensify as white Americans continue to be assaulted, and there is no reason to think that our enemies have the foresight and self-control to moderate their attack.
Perhaps. It may be that those “enemies” have at least a vague, even unconscious and incoherent, understanding of Suvorov’s Law – of they pull back and moderate, this would empower the pro-White side and give pro-Whites legitimacy and momentum.
Of course, this awakening is a cause for celebration for white advocates.
Of course – the typical victory psychosis of Der Right. Prematurely celebrate false, empty victories.
But we can’t rest on our laurels.
Particularly since you haven’t actually accomplished anything yet. All of the “good news” - to the extent it is real - has come from sociopolitical trends and events that Der Movement had little to nothing to do with.
Now is the moment to push harder than ever.
Yes, more Pepe and Kek, more Spencer screaming, more Gaslight Greg fundraising, more $340K “executive compensation” for Mophead, and more multiracial Rosie and the Kids White nationalism.
Although white Americans are hungry for our message, in the upcoming elections, the Republican Party and conservative movement are poised to harvest white discontent–and then channel it into more business as usual: tax cuts for billionaires, giveaways to Our Greatest Ally, Platinum Pandering to non-whites, and color-blind civic nationalism for whites.
And that’s exactly what will happen. The safety valve will release some White discontent, Bubba Gabster will declare victory, and Der Movement will gibber about “Savitri Devi,” Kali Yuga,” and being “snug in your hobbit hole.”
But responding to anti-white identity politics with Republican pabulum is like taking a knife to a gunfight.
This Wallace seems like a relative newcomer to Der Movement who breathlessly prattles trite memes like this, commentaries that some of us have been hearing for decades.
It is time to face the truth: these people promote a losing strategy because they want us to lose. Stop listening to them.
Yes, but it is not only Republicans who fit this description. What about the Grand Poobah Quota queens.
What should white advocates do?
Drop Der Movement and join with reasonable activists to build a New Movement.
First, we need to keep promoting our message…
More of the same, more of the same endless failure, freakish behavior, and other nonsense. And of course, send more money to the Quota Queens.
…whites are being attacked as whites, and we need to defend ourselves as whites.
More of the same old message. Forget about the last quarter century, Der Movement has been saying these things since at least the days of Rockwell.
When the Republicans are swept back into power in November, millions of whites will want to go back to sleep.
Most likely they will.
We won’t let them.
How? By repeating the same old tired phrases? By the same old dogma?
Second, although we have made enormous gains in the battle of ideas…
Evidence? And don’t cite opinion polls – that has more to do with “Obama, Trump, Black Lives Matter, the Great Replacement, and open anti-white hatred” than any ideas percolating from the utterly failed “movement.”
…we need to convert public opinion into political gains.
Again, how? Look at the Trump failure. What is going to be different this time?
Thus the next step is to create a policy institute with two primary goals.
1. More money for Greg? 2. More money for Greg?
First, white identity politics currently exists as a mere “specter,” a bogeyman evoked by the establishment.
Finally, some truth in this essay.
To turn that specter into a real political force, we need to know how many of us there are, where we are, and how committed we are.
Yes, and decades of work and millions of dollars of “D’Nations” and you guys still don’t know that and I’m sure you will continue not to know it.
Only then will our votes matter as much as our ideas.
Sure. How do do it? Talk is cheap.
Second, we need to propose concrete policy solutions to counter the negative effects of globalization and multiculturalism.
Again - and decades of work and millions of dollars of “D’Nations” and here we are in the year 2022 and we are told by this person who has suddenly emerged on the scene that we need “concrete policy solutions.” Gee… wasn’t that what the National Policy Institute was supposed to be about? Tell me again what credentials and qualifications Dickie Spinster has to be made the leader of that.
I see nothing in this piece that hasn’t been repeated previously and has ended up resulting in nothing. But, hey, we can be open-minded; if this new institute does some good, great, but I suspect it will be a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing.
We need fundraising! Of course! Fifty million dollar investment! Lots of movies for Trevor Lynch! Prospective donors get in touch! Money, money, money!
Wallace wants to monopolize all support and investment into a SINGLE organization – Counter-Currents’ organization of course. I oppose that completely – Counter-Currents is the enemy of the sort of White nationalism I support; Johnson and Counter-Currents are a pernicious influence, and they must be unalterably opposed, and their agenda of putting all pro-White eggs in their destructive basket must be fought in an unrelenting manner.
The idiots claim that in the 1990s there was no white identity politics or racial friction except in…Louisiana. Can you believe that utter nonsense? What about the racial tensions in major cities dating back at least to the 1960s? Well, since much of that involved White ethnic-Colored friction and since Der Movement considers White ethnics more of a problem than Coloreds, then it makes sense.
Note the “take” on Trump. They say Trump was a fraud who did nothing for Whites, but Wallace points out that Trump, with his rhetoric, helped with metapolitics, essentially balkanization and stimulating White recognition of interests. That is 100% on accord with what I have been saying since 2016, and 100% against Johnson’s idea that Trump is a sincere man of genuine greatness. Wallace says that Trump helped the “movement” – I agree, the idea that the “movement” helped Trump is a delusion. Der Movement benefited from Trumpism. It was a one-way street.
Gottfried like a father to Wallace – is Wallace someone you can trust? And both of them stress that they are not critiquing the average Jew in the street (their words) - they are only against "Jewish power" (which comes from where? doesn't the average Jew in the street support that Jewish power?).
This is all actually another black mark in Spencer's ledger - his complete failure with the National Policy Institute (NPI) left the opening for Johnson to move in with his own project. If NPI was a robust enterprise, it would have filled the "movement" organization niche space and left no room for this aggressive power play by Counter-Currents to monopolize the ideological, political, and activist energies of the "movement."
An institute that promotes destructive ideas and that monopolizes the niche space, inhibiting the emergence of potentially superior competitors is obviously a negative, and worse than not having any institute at all. We have to wait and see what this institute does and if there is anything positive, fine, support it, but if not, if it is negative, then it must be opposed as the perfidious infestation it may very well turn out to be.
Given that this is coming from Counter-Currents, the low point, the pit, of Der Movement, can you trust what they would do? Consider their constant dishonesty; the following is just one small example of many. More lies from Counter-Currents. No, mendacious Counter-Currents scum (more succinctly: Counter-Currents), in the early days of covid the System was NOT telling us we were all going to die. Instead, all of them, including weasel Fauci, was telling us that covid was no big deal, concern about it was xenophobia and anti-Asian racism (a point the HBD-addicted pro-Asian "movement" would like to forget), and that we should all go to Chinatown and patronize Asian establishments. At that time, it was Trump and the Right ringing the alarm bells, while Trump was denounced as a xenophobic germophobe for stopping travel from China. Then at some point, someone must have planted the idea with Trump that worry about covid would tank the economy and ruin his re-election chances, He started dismissing the importance of covid, at which point the anti-Trump hysterics of the Left changed direction completely and fixated on covid as an INTERNAL threat, targeting coloreds. That's the real time line, and don't rewrite history to match your hobbit hole Luddite conspiritard narratives. The whole covid thing was politicized from day one, but the simplistic narrative that the Left/System was always hysterical about covid is WRONG. Counter-Currents lying scumbags.
As to why Der Movement always has these problems - I have discussed many reasons at my blog, including but not limited to the affirmative action, faulty dogma, grifter and freaks, etc. But also consider what I term The Bel Riose Syndrome. People in power do not like, indeed, fear, subordinates who are too competent - the see those subordinates as potential rivals and threats; at the very least, when the subordinate is more capable than the leader, it makes the leader look bad by comparison, diminishing that leader's legitimacy. So, the competent and the independent-thinking are eschewed, and mediocre sycophants are the best you get.
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