Odds and Ends, 8/7/22
In der news.
Counter-Currents madness:
Let’s cut straight to the chase: germs don’t cause disease; disease causes germs.
Der Movement MUST be unalterably opposed. If Der Movement wins, the Dark Ages will look like a futurist paradise by comparison.
A possibility to consider: Der Movement is a greater threat to White interests than is the System. I'm really coming around to that view. We should all ponder this.
Gaston:
Der movement" is simply put a mass of dysfunctional individuals that are so for reasons transcending their political views, since I can see how any fringe movement/subculture will attract dysfunctional types that didn't fit in normal society anyway so they see in the fringe movement/subculture an opportunity to find a place where "they belong"; it was so in early far left circles (and it is today as well in radical antifa), but with the societal norms shifting left at a neck-snapping speed it is now the far right experiencing this phenomenon.
Der movement's leaders are just smarter (compared to the average type I activist, at least) guys that figured out a way to exploit financially a mass of low IQ individuals.
Sallis:
Exactly. Note that this clearly demonstrates that the "movement" leaders are frauds. Any real, sensible leader would of course have nothing at all to do with ultra-freaks, the type who say viruses don't exist, reject the germ theory of disease and who say that nuclear weapons are a hoax. Such an authentic leader would realize that not only are such people useless by themselves but that they taint the group and cause high IQ educated people to stay far away. But, no. The leaders exploit the freaks as supporters and sources of money.
More TOO:
John Samuelssays:
July 30, 2022 at 6:46 pm
Since Sallis has linked to my comment, I’d like to elaborate on something he just wrote with some speculation on my part. Sallis wrote: “How is it possible that the same person who wrote The Trilogy now agrees that an ‘individualist’ is defined as someone who never calls their mother? Am I the only one who thinks that is absolutely ludicrous?”
Someone emotionally distant from his family in the way described is more appropriately referred to as “schizoid.” While some might argue that such emotionally cold individuals simply exhibit a unique cognitive or emotional profile that should not be maligned or pathologized, it’s worth noting that on the whole, even though schizoid individuals may not see themselves as problematic (given that they rarely seek treatment), they tend to have poorer than average social and professional outcomes.
The schizoid personality is not, in my view, one to idealize in any way, as aberrant as it is. Yes, some geniuses, perhaps Tesla among them, were arguably schizoid, but for every Tesla among schizoids there are hundreds or more with very subpar and socially dysfunctional lives (this emotional coldness is not more widespread precisely because there were – and continue to be – selective pressures against it). It’s worth noting that brain scans appear to show schizoid and autistic brains as basically the same (showing a relationship).
My speculation, given the subculture of HBD, is that the autistic or schizoid personality is pedestalized, which is an inversion of sorts with normie society given the penalties associated with such an aberrant personality type (the proliferation of autistic/schizoid incels and the increasingly competitive nature of our society has really brought their frustrations to the fore among very young adults today).
HBD is really a form of projection on the part of men high in schizoid/autistic traits. Ironically, the normies are too smart to fall for this (yeah, they are smarter). Schizoid traits, in my view, should be culled, not idealized.
What about the idea promoted by TOO that I am some sort of ethnic advocate (pot calling the kettle black, perhaps) for Italians? Really? Here's some "Italian advocacy" I suppose:
Therefore, as a theoretical example, if it were necessary to exterminate 10-20% of the population of, say, Italy, in order to improve the national stock through eugenics, then that would be a quite appropriate price to pay in order to have a population that is more intelligent, disciplined, productive, and creative.
If there are Italian readers who are upset with these negative opinions, and who are now gesticulating in outrage, they should consider the following hard truths.
If you behave in a contemptible manner, others will treat you with contempt. If you allow yourself to be the anvil of history, others will be the hammer. If you want respect, you must earn it.
If the Italian people, as currently constituted, have it within themselves to overcome their deficiencies then they need to do so as soon as possible. If they lack the racial character for such an undertaking, then they must submit to an absolutely ruthless regimen of eugenics, to reverse millennia of dysgenic influences. A willingness to continue as an inferior species will do nothing except prove Kesselring correct.
That's my work. That's what TOO asserts is me being an ethnic advocate for Italians with an envious grudge against Nords. It's there in digital black and white - PROOF that TOO is absolutely wrong about what they write about me.
The real "crime" of Ted Swarthis - adhering to truth and facts and logic and refusing to kowtow to "movement" dogma or to "movement" "rock star" gurus. Individualist independence of mind always results in a negative reaction from collectivist conformists. Indeed, ironically enough, given proper definitions of individualism and collectivism, it is Ted Swarthis who is being the individualist and the TOO crowd who are the ostracizing collectivists.
Kevin MacDonald – wrong, wrong, wrong. According to that, Hungary and Italy are more individualistic than any Scandinavian country, much less Germany. Looking at the differences between Italy and Greece in that table, or between Hungary and Poland (never mind Croatia and Slovenia), it is clear that the differences are most likely due to historical-cultural mechanisms instead of "primordial" evolutionary-ancestry mechanisms - how different are the ancestries in those comparisons? And how do the outcomes differ anyway? Both Italy and Greece are subject to migrant invasion. Hungary and Poland both attempt to resist the EU. Meanwhile, Denmark is less "woke" than Sweden; on other hand, MacDonald talks about Denmark being more "German" than are other Scandinavians yet the Danes are both more individualist and less "woke" than Germans and Scandinavians. Primordial evolutionary explanations? MacDonald's thesis seems not supporting by the facts - unless one accepts his peculiar definitions of individualism.
More:
Low individualism traits include:
- sacrifice for others
- dependence on social unit
- external loss of control
- moral relationship
- external locus of control
ALL of those are attributes of Law of Jante Scandinavian conformist collectivism and enforcing social norms through external social control and ostracism.
Further, it is amusing that MacDonald both defends the validity of HBD and says he is a bit of fan of Salter's EGI, since many HBDers have been attacking "Salterism" from day one, while dastardly Ted Swarthis has been defending it. Indeed, hostility to the idea of EGI and of kinship-based interests is a hallmark of pro-Jewish and pro-Asian HBD, which generally promotes the idea of aracial cognitive elitism instead.
Of related interest: If racial diversity decreases social trust, then it stands to reason that monoethnic populations that have greater genetic heterogeneity will manifest less social trust than more genetically homogeneous populations - relative genetic homogeneity likely being detected at the "street level" by the (crude) proxy of physical appearance phenotype. Although this scenario may manifest only in populations that are overall more individualistic on the global level - like Europe as a whole. Other populations that are very highly collectivist, like the Chinese, can dispense with social trust per se, and they all look alike anyway.
The elites must know that diversity is a devastating weakness and that a multiracial society is a catastrophe. But they have made the (in my opinion incorrect) calculation that fixing the problem is either impossible or too painful (at least for them) and that the solution is worse than the problem. They prefer a slow rot, the frog slowly boiling, with the hope that they and their descendants (if they have any) have enough security to "ride the tiger" of the decline. To them, slowly dying of a cancer is better than a curative painful radical surgery and extreme radiation and chemotherapy. Meanwhile, they'll make the best of it, getting rich and exploiting non-White support and racial conflict for political, social, and economic power. At least they can be the big fish in a polluted small pond, eh?
It is not only the racial and cultural conflict, inflation and other macroeconomic problems, lack of law and order, decaying international standing, etc. that demonstrates a declining America correlating with increased diversity. There's also the general decline in standards and services, crumbling infrastructure with potholes like moon craters, empty supermarket shelves, wildly inconsistent mail delivery, wild animals like coyotes and pumas roaming busy urban areas, and 1001 other signs of a decrepit, dying America. Presciently, in the early 1960s, Thiriart predicted that America's racial problems, particularly with Blacks, would spell the end of America as a major world power.
Listen to this. Now, I don’t endorse the “Afro Sephardic” host and his opinions, or Monoxide’s conspirtardism, but that’s not relevant here. What is relevant is the content. I’ve been content the juvenile jackassery of the Alt Right, as is exemplified by TRS, from the start. But others took TRS seriously – Greg Johnson before he and TRS apparently had a falling out (surprise!) and see this. And note the comments about TRS' anti-Italianism, Nordicism, and Anglomania in that podcast.
Der Movement is a complete catastrophe as I have been saying for years. It is all silly hobbyism.
As a thought experiment, imagine that covid-19 originated in (Southern) Italy. What would be the Der Movement attitude toward the pandemic then? The virus (viruses now, of course, exist) would be a medical public health catastrophe, its origin reflects on the innate deficiencies of the population where it originated, Nutzis would be walking around with masks glued to their faces like the original Baron Zemo, and they'd get so many covid vaccinations that they'd look like Pinhead from Hellraiser. Strip away the facetious hyperbole (not much, truth be told) and there are underlying realities about Der Movement and its obsessions revealed.
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